97 F150 4.6 Windsor, 4x4, 5 speed, 210,000mi

Hey all, I'm having trouble finding information on this mode $06 diagnostic thing. I was able to find a bit of information on the subject, but not the info i need. I understand that $06 is on board test results, and that TID $51 deals with misfires, but I'm having a problem with TID $02 CID $11 and CID $21 and cannot seem to find any info on them.

What prompted me to look this stuff up is my truck started running rough about 2 days ago and there is no code being shown or stored in the ECU.

I'm no pro with this Torque app, so if there's other info y'all need, just let me know and I'll try to grab it.

Mode $06 report generated by Torque for Android
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Vehicle VIN: Not present
Vehicle Manufacturer: Unknown
Vehicle Calibration ID: Not present

Unit and scaling information are not supplied with the data from the ECU for this type of vehicle. Consulting the manufacturers service book for this information is recommended.

Test report:
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TID:$01 CID:$11
- Rich to Lean sensor threshold voltage(constant)
Min: 512
Test result value: 793
PASS
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TID:$01 CID:$21
- Rich to Lean sensor threshold voltage(constant)
Min: 512
Test result value: 751
PASS
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TID:$02 CID:$11
- Lean to Rich sensor threshold voltage(constant)
Max: 32,686 Min: 32,850
Test result value: 0
FAIL
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TID:$02 CID:$21
- Lean to Rich sensor threshold voltage(constant)
Max: 32,686 Min: 32,850
Test result value: 0
FAIL
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TID:$03 CID:$01
- Low sensor Voltage for switch time calculation
Min: 0
Test result value: 461
PASS
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TID:$03 CID:$02
- Low sensor Voltage for switch time calculation
Min: 0
Test result value: 461
PASS
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TID:$10 CID:$11
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Max: 21
Test result value: 19
PASS
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TID:$10 CID:$21
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Max: 21
Test result value: 19
PASS
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End of report.


If anyone can make heads or tails of this, or point me in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate it

Thanks

 

Grab a study guide: https://www.motorcraftservice.com/vd...f/obdsm973.pdf

Review this thread, you'll have to filter out the irrelevant parts: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...bd1-obdll.html

 

Thank you for your reply, but I still cannot find any info on what TID $02 is.

I see TID $01 and TID $03 on page 19 on that motorcraft manual, but nowhere in the manual that I can find is TID $02

 

There seems to be some problem with what your diagnostic tool is displaying.
There is no TID $02 in the 97 OBDII doc.
The 06 test 51 is not for misfires. It is test 53.
Read the mode 6 section and the OX sensor operation section several times until you get the hang of it.
I don't think what you posted is applicable to Ford.
I would pay most attention to test 53 and look at all the cylinder misfire counts for an indication of coil or other fault with a cylinder, if no code is set..
Good luck.

 

Ok, I was starting to wonder if there even was a TID $02. I'm relatively new to the whole mode $06 thing, so thank you for clarifying.

If my Torque app is only showing the data in the OP, would that mean that's the only data it's scanning for? For example, it's not showing TID $53 so it's not scanning that? I believe I have one of the cheaper BT OBD dongles so maybe it's not transmitting all the info?

Thanks again for the reply

 

Did you go read that thread that I told you to read?

 

Yes, I just re-read and re-read it, and I'm not really sure what you're pointing me to. My truck is OBD2 compliant...

I'm sorry if I'm not getting at what you're pointing to, been a busy week

Thanks

 

In the Motorcraft document pages 8 and 9 is the mode 6 information.
If these tests can't be accessed you need to use some other Scanner..
They need to be requested one at a time since they are monitors and only updated by either adding to the count until it goes to a max limit or cancelled as the conditions change.
If a repair clears the trouble the count is eventually cleared out.
The other way is to reboot the PCM that clears all tables, then wait for anymore counts to accumulate from drive cycles..
You may or may not have Ox system issues because the info you posted may not apply.
Get a correct way to look at the data before making conclusions.
Good luck.

 

See specifically posts 21 & 35.

For misfire data, you're probably going to find it under the real time data on a 97. Might be TID $51, might be TID $53. I'd look at TID $51 first since the OBDII implementation of the misfires TIDs wasn't standardized back then.

I'd simply ignore the TID $02 stuff. Probably not implemented back then. See these articles: http://www.motor.com/article.asp?article_ID=1794 and http://resources.aeswave.com/old/Art...00611mode6.pdf