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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 08:53 PM
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Engine Scanner? Which one?

Long and short of it, I have been eyeing thew Edge Insight CTS for monitoring EGTs, Trans temps, and Boost rather than the gauges in the pillar pod idea. I really like the looks of the Edge, but what say you guys? it monitors IPR duty cycle, ICP, and pretty much everything I know is possible to monitor. It will also read and clear codes if need be. I know some run the Scan Gauge, Auto Ingenuity, and other brands. Looking for real world input. Thanks!
 
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I think Ronnie is doing away with his gauges and running that Edge insight. As long as you're not using it for tuning and just monitoring, it should be fine.
 
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Yeah, the ONLY thing it will be used for is monitoring. It will have no capability to tune anything. It even has a mileage monitor for getting the best MPG you can get out of your truck. Thanks Bill! Staying warm? Hope so...
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 09:09 PM
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Trying to. It was fairly warm today, but cold tonight. Wind is blowing something terrible and I think we're gonna get some freezing rain.
 
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I use both the scan gauge and auto enginuity. I've never needed to put AE on my OBS that has a scan gauge in it. The only reason I ever got AE was to work on other peoples trucks. I'll probably put a scan gauge in my SD also, but I haven't decided yet since I have AE at my disposal. Those would be my two definite choices. AE is nice if you want to diagnose more trucks than just your own.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
I use both the scan gauge and auto enginuity. I've never needed to put AE on my OBS that has a scan gauge in it. The only reason I ever got AE was to work on other peoples trucks. I'll probably put a scan gauge in my SD also, but I haven't decided yet since I have AE at my disposal. Those would be my two definite choices. AE is nice if you want to diagnose more trucks than just your own.

Travis, is the AE one you can have hooked up at all times and shows EGTs and such? What about the scan gauge? Thanks. I might want something I can have hooked up when towing or road tripping to Texas a few times a year. Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 01:25 AM
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Travis, is the AE one you can have hooked up at all times and shows EGTs and such? What about the scan gauge? Thanks. I might want something I can have hooked up when towing or road tripping to Texas a few times a year. Thanks!
AE is run on a laptop. It won't read EGTs. It is limited to what the PCM can see. The scan gauge doesn't do EGTs either. You can add external sensors to the scan gauge, but I can't remember if a pyrometer can be added to it.

I've never used a CTS or anything so I'm not sure what they're capable of.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 06:33 AM
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Once I get all the gauges I want I'd like to be running a quad pillar pod with EGT, boost, HPO, and scangauge. I'd like a fuel pressure too but am not sure on how to get it in the cab without bringing fuel inside too. For an auto you could run boost or trans on the scangauge and the other in the pod. Just some more ideas anyway...
 
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
AE is run on a laptop. It won't read EGTs. It is limited to what the PCM can see. The scan gauge doesn't do EGTs either. You can add external sensors to the scan gauge, but I can't remember if a pyrometer can be added to it.

I've never used a CTS or anything so I'm not sure what they're capable of.
Gotcha. Well, I guess I'll be the test dummy for the Insight. I started thinking about it because I was getting ready to purchase gauges and saw that the Edge will do all my temps as well as all the other parameters. I really don't want a pillar pod. My last truck had one and I hated it.

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Once I get all the gauges I want I'd like to be running a quad pillar pod with EGT, boost, HPO, and scangauge. I'd like a fuel pressure too but am not sure on how to get it in the cab without bringing fuel inside too. For an auto you could run boost or trans on the scangauge and the other in the pod. Just some more ideas anyway...
I appreciate the input. My goal is to not have a pod at all though. They are an eyesore, in my opinion. Not hating on those that run them by any means. If it was all that was available, I would do it, but it seems I have an option. like I told Travis, I'll be the test dummy and let the guys know how it works and if I like it. I like the price vs. full gauges for sure plus I get the other benefits.
 
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Does the edge have hard inputs for multiple sensors or something? I'm just curious how it monitors EGT, trans, etc.
 
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Originally Posted by redman84
Does the edge have hard inputs for multiple sensors or something? I'm just curious how it monitors EGT, trans, etc.
It uses a probe that I will have to install for the EGTs just like any EGT sensor. The rest of the parameters are run off of the PCM. The boost and trans temp are read in the PCM from what the Edge rep tells me. I am not sure how, but he swears they are. He told me the EGT probe is the only thing I will have to install in addition to hooking up the Insight. If he does not know what he is talking about, you guys will be the first to know!
 
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Auto trans temp is an input to the PCM. Boost is calculated as MAP minus BARO, both of which are PCM parameters.
 
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Originally Posted by redman84
Once I get all the gauges I want I'd like to be running a quad pillar pod with EGT, boost, HPO, and scangauge. I'd like a fuel pressure too but am not sure on how to get it in the cab without bringing fuel inside too. For an auto you could run boost or trans on the scangauge and the other in the pod. Just some more ideas anyway...
Electric fuel pressure gauge. You have a sensor in the engine bay, nothing but wires in the cab.
 
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That's cool. I didn't know the PCM read trans temp.
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Electric fuel pressure gauge. You have a sensor in the engine bay, nothing but wires in the cab.
Nice. I figured there would be something easy like that but hadn't really looked into it.
 
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Originally Posted by madpogue
Auto trans temp is an input to the PCM. Boost is calculated as MAP minus BARO, both of which are PCM parameters.
The problem with this is that if you ever need to run a regulator in the map sensor line, the boost read by the PCM will not be correct.. So the boost displayed by the Edge or even a Scan Gauge is not correct unless boost is under the set point of the regulator.

Before the question is asked, sometimes a regulator is needed on the map line to prevent throwing overboost codes and in some cases to prevent defueling at high boost pressure. I didn't notice any difference on my own truck with one, but there have been cases where a regulator was needed.
 
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