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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:08 AM
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4.6L Programmer Suggestions?

I'm fresh to joining this forum, because I've always seemed to find an answer without needing to join. But, I'm a little lost with this one. From what I've found, we all realize the 4.6L is a turd, but my wife saw a 06 stepside, and left me no option. Now I'm stuck filling it's guzzling throat. 11 mpg on I-90 down to Chicago... Its got narrow 35's, 2-1-2 exhaust, and a leveling kit, my 5.4L had 4" lift and wide 35's and I got 18 with it, help from a cold air and a Bully Dog. Is there any help for my wallet in this case? It seems like its always trying to downshift on the slightest hill. I'm looking for suggestions for a programmer at this point, and should I pickup the gears, maybe an electric fan also? It shifts fine, just serviced it+plugs and wires, its just gutless on the bottom end.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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35's are a tall tire for the 4.6. Do you know what your rear gear is? You may want to change that and id throw on the edge evolution. Cheaper than a bully dog
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Start with the programmer, it will change your shift points and bring the mpg's back up a bit
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 05:43 AM
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"we all realize the 4.6L is a turd" No we don't.

I don't believe the 4.6L should get that bad mileage... Mine (4x4, 3.55, 265/17s) gets 19-20 mpg on interstates when kept under 70 mph, and still at 16-ish mpg at over 70.

I'm thinking I agree on the tire size as the culprit. The price that goes with lift/big tires.

Tell her to get a job and buy her own gas!

An Edge or something like it will help with the shifting some, and help the throttle response a lot. I have a Gryphon and it did help the 4.6L with those items. It also indicates a [false] 2 mpg improvement. Actual (hand calculated) mpg stayed about the same with mine.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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This question is right up my alley. My 2005 150 has 35x12.5 17s with an Edge programmer. This helped slightly but the biggest improvement was going from factory gears to 4.88 & 9.75 diff. The truck is a rocket now.

The Edge programmer is the cheaper improvement over the cost of gears.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tjcprop
This question is right up my alley. My 2005 150 has 35x12.5 17s with an Edge programmer. This helped slightly but the biggest improvement was going from factory gears to 4.88 & 9.75 diff. The truck is a rocket now.

The Edge programmer is the cheaper improvement over the cost of gears.
A 4.10 would work better for him since he wants fuel economy rather than power right?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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A 4.10 would be acceptable if he was not going to tow heavy loads much and keep the truck as a "Pavement Princess". I would suggest a 4.56.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 05:44 PM
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A 4.10 would be acceptable if he was not going to tow heavy loads much and keep the truck as a "Pavement Princess". I would suggest a 4.56.
Definitely dont agree with the "pavement princess" 33's hauling 9k worth of horses and tack getting 10mpg while I get 21 mpg driving sensibly on the highway being able to drive 30+ mph on a frozen chizel ploughed feild hauling farm equipment into the feild. All in running 3.73 and always washing and waxing my truck and im always in the feild. Sorry but I definitely do not agree with stree princess
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by twfish
Definitely dont agree with the "pavement princess" 33's hauling 9k worth of horses and tack getting 10mpg while I get 21 mpg driving sensibly on the highway being able to drive 30+ mph on a frozen chizel ploughed feild hauling farm equipment into the feild. All in running 3.73 and always washing and waxing my truck and im always in the feild. Sorry but I definitely do not agree with stree princess
Was I referring to your truck? I was referring to a 150 4.6L using 35s with factory gears. This is a weak set up as I would know as my truck was exactly as typed. This weak set up was good as a "Pavement Princess" and I attempted to work this Princess and broke her. This Princess has been transformed into a Work Mule by adding much larger gears, diff and transmission.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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35's???

If you do not have a programmer now how are you compensating for the speed o error with the tall tires in your calculation of mileage? Yes the tires will slow down the truck too. Mine gets 16 town and 19 highway. I took the tall tire off and now it goes uphill better. Your speed o must be off 20% so your mileage will be off the same.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob The Builder
If you do not have a programmer now how are you compensating for the speed o error with the tall tires in your calculation of mileage? Yes the tires will slow down the truck too. Mine gets 16 town and 19 highway. I took the tall tire off and now it goes uphill better. Your speed o must be off 20% so your mileage will be off the same.
The programmer can recalibrate your spedo
 
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 12:38 PM
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The truck had an Edge programmer with 35s and factory gears. Blew up those gears and installed 4.88s with the same programmer and re-programmed that Edge programmer.

The programmer did not re-calibrate the dash speedo. Perfect example, today the Edge read 112km/h and dash speedo read 90km/h.
 
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