might start a flame war might not (does on youtube hopefully there is decorum here)..might just sink beneath the other posts, but i thought it might be worth asking

1 whats yalls opinion on changing hpop oil

2 whats yalls opinion on Powerstrokehelp.com

 

1 it is not necessary but it dose remove 1 quart of old oil but i dont fill then run then drain then fill like he shows, ever blue moon i will drain then fill just to get more oil out. but i can show you that the hpop flows and dose not stay there and get old.
2. he is a little off on his ways.

 

I have never changed it and don't see the need. I guess you could make an argument for changing if something was contaminating the oil but then you would need to drain oil from other "voids" in addition to the HPOP

As far as powerstroke help, he is like many others that put out information on the Internet about a specific subject. While some of his methods I do not agree with, he does pass along some useful information. Some argue that he is totally off base but if you take the time to review his work, there are times when he passes on good info and other times it's questionable. I do a lot of long range shooting and if you think this guy is questionable, you should see some of the tools giving advice on firearms.

 

I have changed the oil in the HPOP reservoir many times... it isn't so bad if you have the tools to make it easy. By doing this, you risk wearing out that cap and seal on top - which can lead to leaks or a damaged cap that needs to be replaced.

There is also a lot of oil in the head chambers, HPOP lines, the oil cooler, the LPOP plumbing, etc.... You're not going to get all the old oil out unless you do a very expensive oil flush.

The best thing you can do for your truck is to install an oil bypass filter (to remove soot from the oil) and change your oil on schedule. There are those out there that swear by oil analysis and filter changes... but I don't see how the analysis guys can test for every possible additive package (the part that disappears) the oil makers can throw at us.

I use Synthetic and I change at 5000 - some will argue that's late, while others will argue oil analysis can extend that by thousands of miles. I say my oil looks bad at 5000K, so out it goes.

As for our friend on YouTube: He's opinionated, and that means others will disagree with some of his stuff - sometimes rightly so and sometimes not. I saw a vid where he says a programmer is a better option to tuning. I say a bad reprogram can leave a problem in the PCM that may or may not be cleared... just look at what happens with Windows updates. I prefer the chip approach because I can always yank it and get back to the untainted stock configuration. That's just one example of how we must be careful to not take one person's word as gospel.

 

Powerstrokehelp is one guy. As others said, he has his opinions. Some good, others not. On here you have a lot of different guys with opinions and experience. In the early days many of us found powerstrokehelp to be a good place to go for a laugh.

As for the HPOP, doesn't hurt to change it. The more dirty oil you get out of your motor during an oil change, the better things will be. I have changed it on my trucks, but I usually don't.

 

I think it's a waste of time. The amount of oil the HPOP reservoir holds is insignificant, especially compared to the quart-plus of oil left in the oil rails in the heads, and the quart-plus the oil cooler holds.

I think he puts enough bad information out there that I'm inclined to ignore everything else he says.

 

1. Go ahead. You probably won't hurt anything. But before you do look at a schematic of the oil system. It's all one system. The HPOP gets a lot of flow. Over the course of an oil change it cycles thousands of times.

The only time sludge MIGHT build up in there is if oil is used past its service life. But at that point you need to tear down the pump.

2. He is a little off and sometimes just wrong.

 

I say change it once to satisfy your curiosity. It will look like any used oil.

I have a video on YouTube where I do just that. I thought about sending in 2 oil samples; one drain pan one hpop. Buy I decided it wood be a waste if $60 because there would still be people who believe Bill more, even though his theory is based on nothing.

 

1) Complete waste of time.

2) He's generally a moron.

 

1. Complete waste of time. Might actually do more harm than good, especially if you don't clean off the area around the inspection plug before loosening it up. (I've seen it happen....creates IPR woes)
2. I take Powerstrokehelp.com with a grain of salt. Some stuff is useful, some of it is flat out mis-information. It doesn't take very much to figure out what is BS and what isn't.

 

In fact recently, someone dropped stuff in there... Bad day.

 

yah i did ... took apart the whole reservoir

worst part is it coulda been avoided had i slowed down and been patient

 

My truck has 200k miles on it and probably done it only a handful of times, for me I fill that it has quieted the injectors down some. In the past I would have and had argued that it was a must because of what a buddy of mine at Cat told me years back. I then called him up a couple of months ago and he said with the older are trucks get the wiser we get and was not a big deal. It's one of those things that if it makes you fill better about doing the job then by all means go for it, and if you couldn't care less then don't worry about it.

As for Bill... He has some good pointers, he did a nice job on where to spot for oil leaks, but more or less couldn't care less on his info.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck.

 

Oh was that you? I didnt remember who had posted the thread.

 

HPOP changes.... LOL.. The ONLY reason to even consider such a thing is if you just want some more old oil to get changed. I never mess with the HPOP oil. The HPOP rez will have brand new oil in it about 5-10 seconds after you start the truck after an oil change anyways...