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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The2003Excursion
Unions would be my guess on why Ford does what they do.
^^^what he said^^^

Many sub assemblies may be made by subcontractors, but you still need to deal with other issues (and unions are one of them)
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 12:40 AM
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you'll find more of the options you want on a limited, although loaded XLT's are out there just in much smaller numbers.

my '00 limited Ex had heated seats and my '02 limited Ex does not...riddle me that one!
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LivingLarge
Not all limited models came with heated seats. My 02' didn't.
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my '00 limited Ex had heated seats and my '02 limited Ex does not...riddle me that one!
Is the pigtail for the heated seats under the seats?

Originally Posted by The2003Excursion
My 94 Civic has plugs, wires and connection to the harness for every option mine didn't come with.... Dash clock, fog lights, front and rear speakers, sunroof, rear hatch light, all there for the pluggin' in....

Just add the switch in the dash and the lights on the grill, and you have fog lights. All the wires are right at the blank for the stereo for 4 speakers that just need to be plugged in.
See, I'm not the only one.

It's usually the Japanese manufacturers that have all the plugs available. My Mazda RX-7 had all the plugs there for power options. Ditto with my wife's Mazda MPV minivan. (The engine says Ford Cleveland Engine Plant.)
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pele
Is the pigtail for the heated seats under the seats?

nope! going to have aftermarket heaters installed here soon.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The2003Excursion

Unions would be my guess on why Ford does what they do.
Personally, I believe the foreign auto brands have many many more dealer installed options vs. domestic brands, which would require more factory wiring be present to allow this The domestic brands also do a fair amount of customer orders vs. my perception, that the import brands rarely have customers order, perhaps because of production schedule/vehicle allocation?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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I think it would be way easier to install aftermarket options than trying to install factory ones. Probably cheaper as well
 
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 03:20 AM
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GM trucks from the late 90's to the early 00's liked to use sub-harnesses for their options. For instance, an overhead console would have its own harness with it's wiring going out to a sensor for the temp reading and the main power input is a plug that plugs into the truck's power distribution.

To me, this would be the most economical solution for a manufacturer- the main vehicle harness covers everything stock, and maybe plugs for the most common additions, then sub-harnesses for options or groups of options. Either way, there are only two main truck harnesses- gas and diesel.

Maybe the Excursion uses something similar?

On one of the Gm trucks I worked on (can't remember the year)- the shortbed taillight harness was exactly the same length as the longbed- the only difference was in the way it was taped...
 
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