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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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POWER STEERING SWAP

Well I'm back beating this dead horse again. The vehicles in this thread are donor 1973 f-250 2 wheel drive. Recipient vehicle 1967 f-250 2 wheel drive. Now that I realize I will need to buy a lot of new parts to switch my 69 over to disk on the front. I'm going to sell the parts off of the donor 1973 to a guy who has a 1967. He has manual steering and wants power steering and disk brakes. So I told him I would sell him disk brake parts and power steering parts if they would fit. The way I understood Number Dummys response to my last thread was that 1973 parts would fit if you changed all parts involved : column, steering gear, pump, lines, plus the entire front suspension system. Question is will they swap without a major project. Does the 73 steering gear mount using the same holes as the manual? Does he have to cut the column ? PLZ bare with me this swapping is all new to me.
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 04:54 AM
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David, For the most part all of the 2wd trucks share the same mount holes 65-79. There are some mount differences between the I6, 302, & FE 352/360/390 and need to be kept family specific.

The steering column controls the transmission shift for factory auto and 3 spd manual, the floor shift has a plain column.

Brake lines, prop. valve, brake booster and other items are not on non power trucks. Power steering pump brackets are engine specific.

I only recommend buying the complete donor because of little differences that can only be found on a donor.

I have done this several times, I sell parts off the donor that I don't use and have always ended getting more back than I paid.


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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 07:18 AM
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THX John, that helps me feel more confident that the 73 parts will fit his 67. The size of the steering gear and the way it mounted on the 73 made me question it. I'II let him have all the relative parts. You are right I got the parts I wanted and a little extra money to boot. THX David
 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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The Saginaw gear is bigger on top, requiring the matching column. So as long as they are swapped together, all is good.



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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 06:01 PM
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THX John I got ya. David
 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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The power steering gearbox will bolt right to the '67 frame, provided of course, that it doesn't hit the engine perch. You may have to change the driver's side engine perch for clearance.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 04:59 AM
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And with the FE engine, you get that with the donor truck.



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Much better than bending over the fender with an angle grinder making your back mad at ya......
 
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Hey guys, can you be a little more specific on this possible problem. The engine perches in the 73 are pretty tall is that the problem. Haven't seen the 67 so don't know. Both engines are FE 390. THX David
 
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Bendix P/S: 1966/68 F100/250 2WD / 1969 F100/250 2WD before serial number D96,001.

Ford/Saginaw P/S: 1969 F100/250 2WD & F350 from serial number D96,001 / 1970/79 F100/250 2WD & F350.

D4TZ-6029-B (replaced C9TZ-6029-A) .. Left Engine Support (aka tower/stand/perch) / Obsolete

Applications: 1969/76 F100/250 2WD & F350 360/390 with or without P/S.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by money pit 69
Hey guys, can you be a little more specific on this possible problem. The engine perches in the 73 are pretty tall is that the problem. Haven't seen the 67 so don't know. Both engines are FE 390. THX David
The driver's side perches for trucks with P/S mount approximately 3" closer to the front, using the two front holes in the frame to allow clearance for the larger Ford Saginaw P/S gearbox.
 
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Without proper perch or modified one the ps holes don't long up.
 
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Don't know where the 3" comes from, the ps perch for the Saginaw gear has a bend deflection in it. If I can recall correctly the bottom moves to the other set of holes. I have seen about a 3/8" notch cut in a perch that was not swapped. The gear will hit the perch if not swapped or notched, but you don't move it 3".



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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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Well guys the 67 owner wants to buy the parts off the 73( steering gear, column, and pump). Question is seeing how I've never taken one apart before. Do I start at the gear or in side the cab. Motor is out so access is good. Anyone have input on the best process. Can I leave the wheel on?
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Yep. Leave the wheel on. I'd start under the hood. Disconnect shift linkage. Unbolt the steering coupler (rag joint). Then move inside the truck. Unbolt the plate to the firewall. Remove the 2 bolts that mount to the bottom of the dash. Crack open a Malt Beverage.
 
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