Towing Info Please
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Towing Info Please
I have a 2013 F250 4x4 6ft bed near enough standard. I intend getting a 36ft Raptor Toy Hauler. My problem is: On the sticker on the lower B pillar the GVWR is 10000lbs. On the website it is either 14000 or 15900, (can't be sure). I have read elsewhere 18000. The brochure is 15900, The RV is 16900. All the RV dealers I have spoken to say the 250 will tow these easily.
I am a complete novice when it comes to all this so would appreciate good advice, without all the technical bumf that goes with it.
My questions are,
1, what are all the acronyms? ie: UVW, GVWR etc
2, Will my 250 pull this RV safely and legally in the US
3, As the truck is new (ish) can anyone tell me a quick and easy way to increase my trucks towing ability?
I am a complete novice when it comes to all this so would appreciate good advice, without all the technical bumf that goes with it.
My questions are,
1, what are all the acronyms? ie: UVW, GVWR etc
2, Will my 250 pull this RV safely and legally in the US
3, As the truck is new (ish) can anyone tell me a quick and easy way to increase my trucks towing ability?
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Have you looked in your owners manual? Within the 1000 pages of unneeded info, theres surely a towing capacity in there somewhere!
If you find something labeled GCWR, this is your answer! This is the Gross Combined Weight Rating, i.e. total weight of your truck and trailer. Take this number minus your GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) and vua-la! Your answer of how heavy of a trailer you can tow!
If you find something labeled GCWR, this is your answer! This is the Gross Combined Weight Rating, i.e. total weight of your truck and trailer. Take this number minus your GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) and vua-la! Your answer of how heavy of a trailer you can tow!
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I have a 2013 F250 4x4 6ft bed near enough standard. I intend getting a 36ft Raptor Toy Hauler. My problem is: On the sticker on the lower B pillar the GVWR is 10000lbs. On the website it is either 14000 or 15900, (can't be sure). I have read elsewhere 18000. The brochure is 15900, The RV is 16900. All the RV dealers I have spoken to say the 250 will tow these easily.
I am a complete novice when it comes to all this so would appreciate good advice, without all the technical bumf that goes with it.
My questions are,
1, what are all the acronyms? ie: UVW, GVWR etc
2, Will my 250 pull this RV safely and legally in the US
3, As the truck is new (ish) can anyone tell me a quick and easy way to increase my trucks towing ability?
I am a complete novice when it comes to all this so would appreciate good advice, without all the technical bumf that goes with it.
My questions are,
1, what are all the acronyms? ie: UVW, GVWR etc
2, Will my 250 pull this RV safely and legally in the US
3, As the truck is new (ish) can anyone tell me a quick and easy way to increase my trucks towing ability?
2.you'll have to look at the towing brochure and see what your truck is based on cab configuration, axle ratio and motor if its 15900, and the trailer is 16900 I'm going to say no but I don't know what number your referring to tow capacity and gcwr will mean critically different things
3. Nothing. You can only legally carry so much. If it ends up being too much, you'll need a 350 or 450 or a different trailer.
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You're going to be over. Figure 8000# on the light end for the truck leaves you 2000 payload, which is only going to be around 12% of the trailer weight on the pin which is way light for an RV.
But I've never seen an RV at a weigh station or talking to a weight cop.
But I've never seen an RV at a weigh station or talking to a weight cop.
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The GVWR of the truck..is just that. What is on the pillar.
The GCVWR (gross combined) is truck and trailer combined.
for a F250 a toy hauler is going to be very pin heavy and I would not do this.
Figure 20% of gross trailer weight for pin weight. Pin weight is translated into what is going into the bed of the truck...payload.
The GCVWR (gross combined) is truck and trailer combined.
for a F250 a toy hauler is going to be very pin heavy and I would not do this.
Figure 20% of gross trailer weight for pin weight. Pin weight is translated into what is going into the bed of the truck...payload.
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Study the Towing Info on post #5 (based on truck configuration /engine / rear axle ) . Never trust a dealer about towing info.
Also, do yourself a favor and get your next truck with a long-box (if you are going to haul a 5er). Sometimes they may fix you with ; 1- an extended pin box (on RV) , 2- a slider 5'er hitch (in truck box) . That will still be a compromise and you can not jackknife when backing into tight spaces and you will damage your cab .
Also, do yourself a favor and get your next truck with a long-box (if you are going to haul a 5er). Sometimes they may fix you with ; 1- an extended pin box (on RV) , 2- a slider 5'er hitch (in truck box) . That will still be a compromise and you can not jackknife when backing into tight spaces and you will damage your cab .
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You're going to be over. Figure 8000# on the light end for the truck leaves you 2000 payload, which is only going to be around 12% of the trailer weight on the pin which is way light for an RV.
But I've never seen an RV at a weigh station or talking to a weight cop.
But I've never seen an RV at a weigh station or talking to a weight cop.
Your other problem will be if you get into an accident.
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You must not have traveled in the North Central US then. I see signs all the time when I drive the interstates that say vehicles over 8000 lbs or pulling trailers must exit at weigh station, this includes RVs. I believe I-80 and I-70 have these signs. I drove so many interstates up there and I wasn't pulling - so I can't help there.
Your other problem will be if you get into an accident.
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You must not have traveled in the North Central US then. I see signs all the time when I drive the interstates that say vehicles over 8000 lbs or pulling trailers must exit at weigh station, this includes RVs. I believe I-80 and I-70 have these signs. I drove so many interstates up there and I wasn't pulling - so I can't help there.
Your other problem will be if you get into an accident.
Your other problem will be if you get into an accident.
As far as an accident......I hear this all the time, but I have never heard from anyone driving a pickup and towing a travel trailer getting a ticket, warning, fine violation or severe scolding for exceeding the manfacturer's recommended maximum towing weight, or being held liable because they were in an accident and were over that magic GCWR.
If you can prove otherwise, please do so. All I ever hear are 3rd hand accounts of "my coworker's brother" but no first hand accounts.
That being said, I don't recommend towing over the rated GCWR, unless you're very sure of your equipment, route and your load. A 16,900# 5th wheel (dry weight?) should be towed by an F-350 Power Stroke DRW, minimum.
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Just for comparison I tow a 14,000 42' GN and fully loaded cat scale verified I am at 22450. My rear axle weight rating is 500 under the door sticker. I would not want to add 2k more that your RV weights. I think your truck is below your needs or your trailer is to heavy.
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You must not have traveled in the North Central US then. I see signs all the time when I drive the interstates that say vehicles over 8000 lbs or pulling trailers must exit at weigh station, this includes RVs. I believe I-80 and I-70 have these signs. I drove so many interstates up there and I wasn't pulling - so I can't help there.
Your other problem will be if you get into an accident.
Your other problem will be if you get into an accident.
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