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Jan 29, 2014 | 12:15 PM

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Misky6.0

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Originally Posted by 78fordman

5 minutes seems pretty fast for warm up. This time of year mine idles for 10 min to hit a 100. deltas should be checked near 190F ECT, traveling 60 mph on a flat road. Go 60 for 15 mi and see what the delta is then go from there.

Idling doesn't really "warm up" the 6.0L.
I typically wait for the Glow plugs to turn off (voltage above 13) - typically takes 2 minutes. Driving < 1 mile at 25mph (it's the posted speed) down my street gets my ECT above 100, when outside temp is 40-60 which is when the heat starts to work.

Not much point in a 10-min warm-up (w/o high-idle at least), unless it's really cold - IMO.

Jan 30, 2014 | 01:12 AM

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I believe it's a late 04 . How do I check?

So I live in California so my options with the egr are limited, do folks recommend the bulletproof diesel coolers or weld it shut? I am an okay welder.

Also what about other aftermarket oil coolers that mount in different locations, wouldn't the oem cooler just get clogged again?

Ford have me a 3500 dollar estimates for oil and egr cooler replacement........

Jan 30, 2014 | 08:03 AM

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r2millers

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Originally Posted by Farmerrye

I still have mine stock but use a coolant filter, no chemical.

Lots of positive comments with the bulletproof unit.

I wouldn't even consider an egr delete here in Cal.

With smog checks intensifying, I'm not sure how long you could fool them.

Many with deletes can't get the OBD codes to clear. One easy way to fail.

Not sure about diesel but with gas, you have drive a minimum amount of time and conditions after lights out, before the system will approve.

Jan 30, 2014 | 02:24 PM

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It is the same, odbii readiness has to be met so you can't just clear it and get checked

I have heard of some passing with tunes but others say it can't be done so still looking into that.

My personal feeling is if you really want to delete it in CA do the up pipe mod, it can be swapped back to stock fairly easily. Just buy a spare off eBay for 25 bucks.

The stock oil cooler costs a lot less than BPD, so you have to decide for yourself. BPD is great, but if you flush out you system, run a coolant filter and go out with stock you should be fine.

You are in a similar situation I was. My EGR cooler failed so I couldn't flush the coolant properly. If you just install a new egr cooler, you risk failure because the oil cooler is plugged. If you do both, the oil cooler might plug because the cooling system wasn't flushed properly so what do you do?

Jan 30, 2014 | 06:18 PM

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Just ordered a Bpd egr and stock oil cooler. Ipr screen. And a coolant filter. Planning to refill with t6 and cat coolant

Going to take it to a shop early next week. Is there anything else that may be important to check or replace while things are opened?

Thanks

Jan 30, 2014 | 06:37 PM

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I read your post wrong about BPD. Their EGR cooler is the way to go for sure, do you know if you got the round one or the square one?

High pressure oil updates like STC fitting. Not sure with your model year what all you need there

Get the updated oil drain and supply for the turbo too

Jan 31, 2014 | 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by billbot

Good list from billbot but also...

Since your truck is an 04, I would really consider a new HPOP. The first two years had many issues with their carbon fiber oil pump innards exploding and contaminating the oil supply system.

Jan 31, 2014 | 11:30 AM

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I am getting the turbo cleaned and filed. I don't have the money for an hpop and no indication that there is anything wrong with it other than assumption.

I have a square cooler and no stc fittings as it is an 04

Thanks for the advice