Sorry if this question has been asked already and I missed it somewhere.

Have you guys found a way to add sensors (fuel psi., boost psi etc) to the Torque app?

 

Here it is [LINK]

 

I've been following that link on most days as it has updated, and without spending half a day re reading all 9 pages, I can't recall that it answers the OP's question.

May I re ask it?

Is there a way to get Torque Pro to read Fuel Pressure on a 7.3L, by adding independent sensors that are not part of the data stream available through the OBDII port?

 

Sorry... I misread the original question. I just use Torque Pro to read OBDII data... I have analog gauges for anything I need that's not already in the truck. Torque is an open-source software that just asks the PCM for data and it translates the data into something we understand. Torque was never set up to read volts or signals directly... it's just a basic App.

Infinity was configured to draw information from multiple digital sources (PCM and the bus add-on) - it's a hardware/firmware package.

*Edit* There are no fuel pressure or EGT sensors on a stock 7.3L, they have to be added... and therefore will not be read on an OBDII port.

Thanks JOHN2001

 

Our trucks do not have fuel pressure gauges the only way to read that is a gauge. All of your other questions should be answered reading the link tugly posted.

 

Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately, based on this answer, I fear that neither the OP nor I have successfully conveyed our question good enough.

I think Tugly gets part of it, in that he stated that the Torque app is translating data from the PCM into something we can understand. I get this.
Our trucks don't have fuel pressure or egt sensors. I get this too.

And, I'll bet the OP (bkuuz1) already understood these facts also when he asked: "Have you guys found a way to add sensors (fuel psi) to the Torque App?

Keyword is add. Key question is "found a way". Since this is an evolving development unimaginable 3 years ago, it seems to like a reasonable inquiry. Some people considering using the Torque App for gauges may not have other gauges installed yet, and might want the clean look of having ALL their gauges be a finger flick away on a touch screen, rather than a mix of some gauges on the screen, and some gauges the old fashioned way.

If an Android tablet has the OBDII connected through Bluetooth, then a powered USB black box... similar to the ISSPRO Performax mulitplexed gauge brain... that supplied both add on sensor data as well as power to the tablet, would be what I might imagine is a business opportunity for someone with the technical savvy to satisfy the unmet need of an undefined market... which I'll bet is a tsunami brewing in the distant horizon of those that really like the clean and tidy look of Tugly's touch screen panel... and want it for ALL their gauges.

 

Hey guys,

Thanks for the replies.

Y2KW57, you are correct in your responses. You worded my question better than I did.

Hey Tugly, I am aware of Infinity. I know extra sensors can be added to Infinity. I was just about to bite the bullet on one when you had opened my eyes to the Torque thread.

In my original question, I basically was asking for a way ( I figured extra hardware would be needed) to add sensors to monitor like fuel psi. etc while using Torque.

Thanks for the replies.

 

Without re-engineering the pcm... no, it is not possible to add a sensor for fuel psi, egt, or any other thing you might want torque to look at if there isnt already a signal for said sensor hooked in to the pcm.

 

And now, I think you reworded your question better than I reworded your question. LOL!

 

Thanks, but that isn't what we are asking about or even thinking about trying to do!

We are not trying to breach data into the PCM. We are not trying to squeeze independently arrived inputs from aftermarket gauge sensors into the OBDII data stream protocol.

We, or at least I, at this point, are asking about, or imagining if, the Torque App has been expanded yet to incorporate other data, from other sources, on it's handy gauge replication interface screen.

Let me try and break it down further, based on Tugly's reports. This is all your fault Tugly. You should have gotten the new steering wheel. Anyways,

Tugly reported that one of the gauge screens he swipes through reports TIME, as in the time of day. He likes this because his stereo doesn't always keep the time on screen.

Now, does the Torque Pro App get TIME information from the PCM? No, the PCM does not report time of day, or date, or day of the week.

Hence, here is an example where the Torque Pro app integrated data from two sources into one handy screen for the operator to look at. (If I understand Tugly's report correctly).

This is the same thing we are asking about for independent sensor data that has been digested into digits by some other yet unknown (which is why we are asking) hardware that sends, via USB or MiFi, data to the Torque Pro app which then seamlessly incorporates the information into it's slick little gauge presentation, even if on a separate screen that we swipe toward, just as Tugly uses 3 separate swipe screens to monitor all that he has in his set up.

Somehow, I've not been able to find the right words, concepts, or examples to reconvey this question. If anyone else understands the question and wants to rephrase it better, then please help!

 

Ahhh.

Well... now you are on another level of connectivity.

In theory, yes, what you propose is possible.
There is wifi technology becoming more widely available and adaptable for this can of worms you want to open.

Programming should be fairly simple to integrate. The real issue here is going to be engineering an interface between each sensor and mesh device.

If i were the guy pulling such architecture from whence the sun shineth not...

I would build a single centralized unit to mux the signals from all desired sensory devices on their own freq bands, use existing technology to process the data into "torquese" on another android unit where utilizing the bare bones ***** to the walls ubuntu platform can enable the blazing fast data rate for realtime, lagless readings in torque on its host device.

That about the stone skinny of what your getting at?

 

YtKw57
Yet, again, you asked the question better than I did.

Maybe this will help,

( I am not trying to add any points to the PCM to monitor)

(I am only trying to add points to to the Torque)

If, for example, we were trying to use the Edge Insight CTS - programmer and wanted to add a fuel pressure gauge etc., we would also have to buy extra hardware such as EAS universal sensor input cable, EAS pressure sensor, and the connectors to connect them to the Insight. Or as to my original question, add them to Torque.

When I saw how some of you guys were changing the codes in Torque to change temperatures from C to F, I started to wonder, if it would be possible to purchase additional sensors, hardware and write the codes to add them.

 

Now I"m back in the choir, saying Amen. Preach bkuzz1 brother. Preach!

Look, here's the deal: Tugly's set up made it obvious. Wouldn't it be nice to log variances in fuel pressure at the exact same moment in time that you are logging all those other acronyms like ICP, FIPW, MFDES, yada yada?

Maybe this is coming. Maybe the Infinity can already get the well heeled curious one there. Maybe Dash DaQ, without the tunes, would get there a about a tune or two less expensively, but this is where I see it going.

And when bkuzz1 asked the question, I instantly knew that I wasn't alone in thinking this. And if I thought of it, then surely Tugly and a lot of you already thought of it 2 or 3 years ago. Hence the question: Have y'all figured it out yet?

I logged 20 PIDS simultaneously on my NGS tonight. Each screen shows 10 PIDs at a time. I could roll the dial back and forth between each set of PIDS. I made recordings instead. I could record a lot more PIDS simultaneously if I wanted to... but I still can't see fuel pressure. So for that, I still need a gauge. And if I'm gonna do that, I want to know if this "liquid" gauge set up (Torque App) could coordinate it's program with other inputs.

For a while now I've want to replace my antiquated boost, pyro, trans gauge set that was the standard de rigueur... last century. The NGS takes care of the TFT and MAP, but fuel pressure, rear differential temperature, ammeter, etc are all interesting data points to have when towing. Rather than be faced with a dozen dials, the idea of a "liquid" surface (tablet) has some appeal.

 

double post

 

Torque has a forum. I did a Search for adding custom pids or torque for non ecm engines, or analog sensors, etc. Iss any of the following helpful?

See for example:

http://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforu...topic&t=4027.0

Forums — » Torque OBD ECU Scanner » Torque Discussion / Ideas » 2010 Ford V10 E350 EOT & Tranny TempTorque

Is this the type of device that Christof13T is talking about?

http://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforu...topic&t=3197.0