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my ride is a 09 sc 4x4 with 48,000 miles 5.4. nothing fancy yet.
I'm getting ready to do some towing and need to know how the Trans cooler does for cooling in my '10F150xlt Vs the poor job the factory trans cooler did in my '07F150xlt.
I'm also interested in a cat-back but not any programmers.
'10 SC 4x4/35,000 miles/5.4
had a bad shock in the rear at 1200 miles. replaced under warranty.
had the CEL come on while driving once and they had to replace a fuel valve or something (there was a TSB on it) again done under warranty.
it does seem to have a sticky slip yoke, but i haven't done anything about it, and my not ever ... we'll see.
it has had a problem with the cam phasers on occasion. when acting up, it will idle very poorly, but will straighten out as soon as you rev it up. the poor idle is reminiscent of a engine with a very big camshaft, but it makes some terrible noises when stumbling all over itself. it has never done it long enough to turn on the CEL, but it did post a "pending" code (which they cleared out when they did the fuel valve, as they happened about the same time). i'm hoping to catch it doing it out on the road some day and get it to the dealer while it is acting up ... but who knows, it may never do it again either.
as for towing, not too much, but i've towed a few message boards around a few times. other than shifting too much, the truck handles the weight pretty well, much better than my old 99 did, anyway.
to the trans cooler, i think you'll find that it works very well.
i once sat at a rural intersection and held the truck against the brakes just to see how well the cooler worked. i got the trans up to about 200°F and then took off down the road to see what it would do. it climbed up another 6° or so until i was done accelerating, then while driving 55mph, it steadily dropped in the next 6 miles until it reached about 165°F and stayed there (within a degree or two) until i shut it off.
even pulling those message boards the temps are always about the same. it will climb a degree or two when it downshifts, then a few seconds later it drops right back down to where it was. they seem to have put some thought into the transmission cooler, it doesn't look very big, but it sure does seem to work pretty well, IMO.
had a bad shock in the rear at 1200 miles. replaced under warranty.
had the CEL come on while driving once and they had to replace a fuel valve or something (there was a TSB on it) again done under warranty.
it does seem to have a sticky slip yoke, but i haven't done anything about it, and my not ever ... we'll see.
it has had a problem with the cam phasers on occasion. when acting up, it will idle very poorly, but will straighten out as soon as you rev it up. the poor idle is reminiscent of a engine with a very big camshaft, but it makes some terrible noises when stumbling all over itself. it has never done it long enough to turn on the CEL, but it did post a "pending" code (which they cleared out when they did the fuel valve, as they happened about the same time). i'm hoping to catch it doing it out on the road some day and get it to the dealer while it is acting up ... but who knows, it may never do it again either.
as for towing, not too much, but i've towed a few message boards around a few times. other than shifting too much, the truck handles the weight pretty well, much better than my old 99 did, anyway.
to the trans cooler, i think you'll find that it works very well.
i once sat at a rural intersection and held the truck against the brakes just to see how well the cooler worked. i got the trans up to about 200°F and then took off down the road to see what it would do. it climbed up another 6° or so until i was done accelerating, then while driving 55mph, it steadily dropped in the next 6 miles until it reached about 165°F and stayed there (within a degree or two) until i shut it off.
even pulling those message boards the temps are always about the same. it will climb a degree or two when it downshifts, then a few seconds later it drops right back down to where it was. they seem to have put some thought into the transmission cooler, it doesn't look very big, but it sure does seem to work pretty well, IMO.
right now i'm trying to figure out a slight vibration i have. i just got new tires and alignment so i hope to rule them out for now.
wondering if it's the drive shaft that i read about.
with a boat that big, i would expect it to shift around quite a bit, but i don't think it will really be a problem.
one thing i noticed is that when you use tow/haul with a trailer in tow, it will hold 5th gear most of the time if you use your foot, rather than use cruise. it will usually upshift to 6th the instant you set the cruise. which is fine, but it causes it to do the 6-5-4-5-6 shuffle up and down every hill, whereas if you drive with your foot it will walk up most hills in 5th and only downshift to 4th on the larger hills. it will still upshift to 6th going down most of those hills though.
they just shift a lot, but it doesn't seem to hurt them any.
in the mountains, with a boat that big, i would expect to spend some time in the crawl lane with the throttle pinned. not that it's a bad thing, but i'd probably just pin the throttle to get it to downshift at the bottom of the hill, then back off a bit and use the skinny pedal to walk up the hill at a comfortable speed and RPM.
for a boat that size, i'd probably get a WDH with sway control, but at a minimum make sure the truck's sway control is active every time you take off with the boat in tow. it is supposed to be on all the time by default, but mine shuts itself off randomly, for some reason, so i check it every time i hook up.
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if you are asking about creating a new sub-forum, that is done by the site administrators. I will gladly forward your request to them if that is what you are asking.
My opinion is that this is a great idea for it's own thread, but probably not worth making it's own sub-forum for.
my ride is a 09 sc 4x4 with 48,000 miles 5.4. nothing fancy yet.

The '09-'14 trucks are still very similar. I appreciate you posting your thread and I hope you'll continue to share info about the '09-'10 trucks, these are some fantastic rigs with great engines.
your boat guy, albeit with the greatest of intentions, is not giving you the best advice, for a couple of reasons.
1: your hitch is only rated to 500lbs tongue weight (TW)/5000lbs towing when used as a weight carrying (WC) hitch. so anything over 500/5000 requires a weight distributing hitch (WDH) because of the hitch ratings.
2: assuming a 7000lbs boat and 10% TW, you are putting about 700lbs on the ball. this causes a couple problems: it exceeds your hitch rating, all but the very best ball mounts are only rated to 600/6000, and you are going to be transferring a lot of weight from the front of the truck to the rear, causing a potential problem with steering stability.
at 700lbs TW, without a WDH you will remove about 250lbs from the front axle and add it to the rear. so your front axle gets 250lbs lighter and your rear axle gets almost 1000lbs heavier (700 from the boat, plus the 250 from the front axle) which could put you close to your GRAWR.
some say that a boat can get away with 7% TW. which gets you less than 500lbs TW. so if that is the case, you might be more managable regarding the truck's stability, but you are at the bare minimum for the trailer to stay stable. and even at 7% TW, you are still unloading the front axle by 180 lbs (give or take). this is probably acceptable, but you are still over the 5000lbs WC rating on the hitch.
do what you feel comfortable with, but just because your boat guy says you'll be fine, keep in mind that the laws of physics cannot be denied.... and that's a big friggin boat .... you don't want that boat driving you down the road.
you might be fine without, as he says, but you may well be far better off with a WDH. especially if you plan to tow it with any frequency.
just my thoughts.














