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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 09:08 PM
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I'd like to start a 2009 to 2010 thread only. Don't get me wrong,I enjoy all f-150's. But I just want narrow in on the 09-10 models for any modifications and or problems. This way we're only looking at the issues with the 4.6 and the 5.4. I'd like to know what people are towing with their trucks,how they've modified them with exhaust,programmers,cai and miles on their trucks. Let me know if anyone would like this.
my ride is a 09 sc 4x4 with 48,000 miles 5.4. nothing fancy yet.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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I'd be interested.
I'm getting ready to do some towing and need to know how the Trans cooler does for cooling in my '10F150xlt Vs the poor job the factory trans cooler did in my '07F150xlt.
I'm also interested in a cat-back but not any programmers.
'10 SC 4x4/35,000 miles/5.4
 
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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My signature has my mods in them. In the 80K miles range for my 09 and have done some mild uhaul towing with her with no issues. Only thing that popped up was some mild brake drag and the guy who owned it before me rode the brakes so had to get pads replaced and rotors turned. Besides that not really too many maintenance problems to date (knock on wood).
 
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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i drive a 2010, 5.4 XL 2wd at work.

had a bad shock in the rear at 1200 miles. replaced under warranty.

had the CEL come on while driving once and they had to replace a fuel valve or something (there was a TSB on it) again done under warranty.

it does seem to have a sticky slip yoke, but i haven't done anything about it, and my not ever ... we'll see.

it has had a problem with the cam phasers on occasion. when acting up, it will idle very poorly, but will straighten out as soon as you rev it up. the poor idle is reminiscent of a engine with a very big camshaft, but it makes some terrible noises when stumbling all over itself. it has never done it long enough to turn on the CEL, but it did post a "pending" code (which they cleared out when they did the fuel valve, as they happened about the same time). i'm hoping to catch it doing it out on the road some day and get it to the dealer while it is acting up ... but who knows, it may never do it again either.

as for towing, not too much, but i've towed a few message boards around a few times. other than shifting too much, the truck handles the weight pretty well, much better than my old 99 did, anyway.

to the trans cooler, i think you'll find that it works very well.

i once sat at a rural intersection and held the truck against the brakes just to see how well the cooler worked. i got the trans up to about 200°F and then took off down the road to see what it would do. it climbed up another 6° or so until i was done accelerating, then while driving 55mph, it steadily dropped in the next 6 miles until it reached about 165°F and stayed there (within a degree or two) until i shut it off.

even pulling those message boards the temps are always about the same. it will climb a degree or two when it downshifts, then a few seconds later it drops right back down to where it was. they seem to have put some thought into the transmission cooler, it doesn't look very big, but it sure does seem to work pretty well, IMO.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 06:12 AM
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i drive a 2010, 5.4 XL 2wd at work.

had a bad shock in the rear at 1200 miles. replaced under warranty.

had the CEL come on while driving once and they had to replace a fuel valve or something (there was a TSB on it) again done under warranty.

it does seem to have a sticky slip yoke, but i haven't done anything about it, and my not ever ... we'll see.

it has had a problem with the cam phasers on occasion. when acting up, it will idle very poorly, but will straighten out as soon as you rev it up. the poor idle is reminiscent of a engine with a very big camshaft, but it makes some terrible noises when stumbling all over itself. it has never done it long enough to turn on the CEL, but it did post a "pending" code (which they cleared out when they did the fuel valve, as they happened about the same time). i'm hoping to catch it doing it out on the road some day and get it to the dealer while it is acting up ... but who knows, it may never do it again either.

as for towing, not too much, but i've towed a few message boards around a few times. other than shifting too much, the truck handles the weight pretty well, much better than my old 99 did, anyway.

to the trans cooler, i think you'll find that it works very well.

i once sat at a rural intersection and held the truck against the brakes just to see how well the cooler worked. i got the trans up to about 200°F and then took off down the road to see what it would do. it climbed up another 6° or so until i was done accelerating, then while driving 55mph, it steadily dropped in the next 6 miles until it reached about 165°F and stayed there (within a degree or two) until i shut it off.

even pulling those message boards the temps are always about the same. it will climb a degree or two when it downshifts, then a few seconds later it drops right back down to where it was. they seem to have put some thought into the transmission cooler, it doesn't look very big, but it sure does seem to work pretty well, IMO.
this is good. i'm planning on pulling my boat that's pushing 7000 lbs. this summer from maryland to tennessee. curious how it will do on the mountains.wondering if i would need a W.D.H. ?
right now i'm trying to figure out a slight vibration i have. i just got new tires and alignment so i hope to rule them out for now.
wondering if it's the drive shaft that i read about.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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strictly speaking, anything above 5000 lbs requires a WDH.

with a boat that big, i would expect it to shift around quite a bit, but i don't think it will really be a problem.

one thing i noticed is that when you use tow/haul with a trailer in tow, it will hold 5th gear most of the time if you use your foot, rather than use cruise. it will usually upshift to 6th the instant you set the cruise. which is fine, but it causes it to do the 6-5-4-5-6 shuffle up and down every hill, whereas if you drive with your foot it will walk up most hills in 5th and only downshift to 4th on the larger hills. it will still upshift to 6th going down most of those hills though.

they just shift a lot, but it doesn't seem to hurt them any.

in the mountains, with a boat that big, i would expect to spend some time in the crawl lane with the throttle pinned. not that it's a bad thing, but i'd probably just pin the throttle to get it to downshift at the bottom of the hill, then back off a bit and use the skinny pedal to walk up the hill at a comfortable speed and RPM.

for a boat that size, i'd probably get a WDH with sway control, but at a minimum make sure the truck's sway control is active every time you take off with the boat in tow. it is supposed to be on all the time by default, but mine shuts itself off randomly, for some reason, so i check it every time i hook up.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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official new thread ???

Who do i contact to officially start a new thread or do i just start it myself? I put it out there that I'd like one that applies just to the 2009-2010 trucks mainly because of our engines. The trucks are basically the same but i don't want to read about 5.0 and turbos when I'm concerned with the older model issues. I still keep up on those just to be in the know. Thanks to all
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 11:46 AM
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Do you mean new sub-forum? The moderators/site admins would need to add a new sub-forum.

I can think of 1 other time they did that, they split the 1994.5-2003 PSD section up into 1994.5-1997 and 1999-2003 sub-forums.

Perhaps one of our moderators can comment?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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to start a thread about just the 09-10, you do just like you did in your other thread. just call out what you want to talk about and those that which to contribute will do so.

if you are asking about creating a new sub-forum, that is done by the site administrators. I will gladly forward your request to them if that is what you are asking.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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to start a thread about just the 09-10, you do just like you did in your other thread. just call out what you want to talk about and those that which to contribute will do so. if you are asking about creating a new sub-forum, that is done by the site administrators. I will gladly forward your request to them if that is what you are asking.
That would be fine. But I guess the way it is now is ok. Just don't want it shuffled to the back. Be good if it could stay on front page
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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We'll I called up the boat trailer place and they said I shouldn't need a wdh. I took the boat to them and they set the tongue weight correct. I guess with the sway control it should drive good. I'll see and let you know. I'll probably test it before the real trip. Btw I just ordered some 6" Lund step bars. I don't like the 3" ones that came on there
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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it stays on the front page if people are interested in it and it gets a lot of replies. You can also add additional info as new posts when yu find it, and that will move it to the front page each time. Don't just bump it up for no reason though, that's a waste of everyone's time.

My opinion is that this is a great idea for it's own thread, but probably not worth making it's own sub-forum for.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by derek4343
I'd like to start a 2009 to 2010 thread only. Don't get me wrong,I enjoy all f-150's. But I just want narrow in on the 09-10 models for any modifications and or problems. This way we're only looking at the issues with the 4.6 and the 5.4. I'd like to know what people are towing with their trucks,how they've modified them with exhaust,programmers,cai and miles on their trucks. Let me know if anyone would like this.
my ride is a 09 sc 4x4 with 48,000 miles 5.4. nothing fancy yet.
Definitely not a bad idea but, it's likely not going to happen. There are other very large forums on here such as the Superduty forum, E-series vans and the '87-'96 F-series.

The '09-'14 trucks are still very similar. I appreciate you posting your thread and I hope you'll continue to share info about the '09-'10 trucks, these are some fantastic rigs with great engines.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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I actually like how the Superduty forum covers all years in one forum and brings a wealth of knowledge and insight that to me anyway seems at least not as readily available on the cluster of F150 forums here.....cruise the Superduty side and you`ll see guys with trucks of all years posting and responding to posts not just locked in on there generation of Superduty
 
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Originally Posted by derek4343
We'll I called up the boat trailer place and they said I shouldn't need a wdh. I took the boat to them and they set the tongue weight correct. I guess with the sway control it should drive good. I'll see and let you know. I'll probably test it before the real trip. Btw I just ordered some 6" Lund step bars. I don't like the 3" ones that came on there
i'm just going to play devil's advocate here for a minute.

your boat guy, albeit with the greatest of intentions, is not giving you the best advice, for a couple of reasons.

1: your hitch is only rated to 500lbs tongue weight (TW)/5000lbs towing when used as a weight carrying (WC) hitch. so anything over 500/5000 requires a weight distributing hitch (WDH) because of the hitch ratings.

2: assuming a 7000lbs boat and 10% TW, you are putting about 700lbs on the ball. this causes a couple problems: it exceeds your hitch rating, all but the very best ball mounts are only rated to 600/6000, and you are going to be transferring a lot of weight from the front of the truck to the rear, causing a potential problem with steering stability.

at 700lbs TW, without a WDH you will remove about 250lbs from the front axle and add it to the rear. so your front axle gets 250lbs lighter and your rear axle gets almost 1000lbs heavier (700 from the boat, plus the 250 from the front axle) which could put you close to your GRAWR.

some say that a boat can get away with 7% TW. which gets you less than 500lbs TW. so if that is the case, you might be more managable regarding the truck's stability, but you are at the bare minimum for the trailer to stay stable. and even at 7% TW, you are still unloading the front axle by 180 lbs (give or take). this is probably acceptable, but you are still over the 5000lbs WC rating on the hitch.

do what you feel comfortable with, but just because your boat guy says you'll be fine, keep in mind that the laws of physics cannot be denied.... and that's a big friggin boat .... you don't want that boat driving you down the road.

you might be fine without, as he says, but you may well be far better off with a WDH. especially if you plan to tow it with any frequency.

just my thoughts.
 
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