Baatzy: $725 with free shipping, but that was for the NGS XL and XL with CAN. Which I don't believe our trucks need (but I really need to talk to Y2KW57 about that). I will pm you.

 

It would be nice to have a Homeroom for Tuglys AE Class, for all the Scanners for that matter. They could also improve the search section, but I digress.....A Central library would be cool, I know we have a Sticky for info but that's starting to grow a second Head! it's getting so big.

 

Yes that is the truth. Whenever I am trying to find any scanner related info I just do an advanced search for Tugly's threads.

 

In fact I just had to drag out the old AE class thread as I finally turned in my homework.

 

I have a "master plan" to set up a share folder on Google Docs where I can upload PID logs, other volunteers will help me clean up the data, then we can post the data publicly in a standardized format. Once that occurs, we can start making graphs of normal operation, graphs of sample problems, and include notations.

Unfortunately... time is not my friend right now (work demands), and it won't ease up soon. I barely have time to tend to my own life, save a few minutes here and there to visit the forum. I have several sets of data I need to review and share my observations, but I'm in the midst of a technology upgrade (new computer, new 802.11ac router, new 3T central data storage) in my home and getting to the logs is not as simple as it was a few weeks ago. Once everything is configured, it should go smoother.

 

Tugly: Please let us know about the make, model and performance of the ac router and are you installing new wireless cards in your laptops?

 

It's a Netgear AC 1900 router.



I don't yet have the wireless upgrade to the computers, but it's coming when I get everything settled in. This thing has serious range and streams HD video far better than my old router did. I didn't really plan the upgrade, my old router started acting up and I wanted something that would last through the next generation of computer connectivity.

I get internet burst speed as high as 75 Mbps, but the average speed is 32-33 Mbps down, with about 4.4 Mbps up. The central 3T hard drive is connected to the USB 3 port on the router, and it maxes out at 26 Mbps (wireless or wired through gigabit Ethernet gets same results). The internet is faster than the silly USB 3 hard drive. I'm still working some kinks out, maybe I can get the hard drive to go faster.

 

Rich, I've not had any fun trying to use a 2T centralized HD on my Netgear R6300 router, either.... sllooooooowww! My router transfer rates are not quite as good as yours, but not too far away.

 

I have not yet ruled out the read rate of my computer hard drives being the limiting factor. More tinkering is needed.

 

Time to Break out The HE rounds for the Buckzooka, Start looking at Solid State Drives. Crazy Fast Thruput and NO spinup or read/write lag. (for Ex. 369$ for 1 TB) That's a big Bang!

 

I have two computers with SSDs for the operating system, but my data is stored on spinning disks. My data is usually unfragmanted and big, so the search time of a conventional hard drive is not a factor. I feel this is the ideal configuration with the technology available today - but this will change over time.

 

I'm fine, at least by my own assessment. Most others would probably say I have a screw loose. Thanks for your concern. I've been extremely busy traveling, and thus have not had time to even look at half my email, let alone forums. I decided to take a mental break from my grind this afternoon, and found this post under my User CP.


You will not regret having the NGS for your Fords. I've even reprogrammed a neighbor's PATS key, when through an unfortunate series of events he ended up with zero keys for his F-150. Had him buy a blank on eBay for $10, had it hard cut to match the cylinder for another $10, and then I used the NGS to reprogram the chip inside the key. Saved him $350, which is what the dealer wanted. Try doing that with Torque or AE.


If you have a 1984 through 2009 Ford, Lincoln, Mercury vehicle, and or a Mazda vehicle from the mid 90's through 2002, you can't go wrong with an NGS. It's the rock solid, Ford sanctioned, professional level real deal. No updates, work arounds, dongles, licenses, formulas, math, conversions, or compromises required. Plug and play. It works. EVERYTHING works, ALL of the time, not just a few things some of the time.


When I use a diagnostic tool to diagnose a problem, I don't want to have to guess if the diagnostic tool itself is the problem. That's why I chose the NGS. By the time you add up the cost of a laptop and a license and an update for AE, the NGS is actually cheaper, more reliable, more complete, less cumbersome, and less complex to deploy.

 

Hey Y2KW57, it's great to see you back. I have to ask - how many PIDs can be logged at a time, and how does a computer look at that log to graph? I assume when Tim fires his up, I'll be looking at his graphs - if I can get them.

 

He's alive!!!

There is a CD which comes with it called NGS Wave data management software which I am hoping will allow me to log graphs for uploading or sending to Tugly, et al.

 

Yes, the NGS Wave software will capture the data stored in the NGS and display it on a computer. I have this software, but I don't use it. I found it was faster to just get an NGS printer, and output graphs directly to receipt tape, and take a picture of that. I can draw arrows directly on the receipt tape, and compare them in the truck. I've posted a few of those pics of receipt tape on this forum in the past. The 12volt portable printer is much easier to deploy and deal with than setting up a laptop to run the Wave software.

The Wave software does more, but I don't need to do more. I just need to quickly get to the bottom of issues as they arise, which fortunately, have not occurred too often. Actually, almost not at all, but I only have 58K miles.


Here's a case where the NGS really helped me. The ABS light. That isn't an OBD-II element, so generic scanners are useless, as is Torque, and the base version of AE. The NGS right away identified the rear wheel speed sensor as the culprit, not only by the PID fault code, but by the ability to actually reveal the exact speed each wheel sensor was reporting in real time, and observe (and record) the disparity between them.


I bought a genuine Ford rear wheel speed sensor and it fixed the problem. Yet lo and behold, a few months later, the ABS light is back on again. Without the scan tool, I would have assumed it must have been the wiring harness instead of the sensor. But guess what? The NGS revealed that now it was the left front wheel speed sensor that was lagging behind the others in reporting wheel speed. Pin point accurate diagnosis is what a good scan tool is all about.