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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 01:34 PM
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Cold Start Failure

94 F350 w/7.3 Turbo. Will not start without block heater plugging in. Replaced Glow Plugs, Relay after realizing 6 plugs were bad. Bowl heater also was replaced but missing 12VDC so not working....
Plugged in truck starts right up, not plugged in won't start fuel mist pours out tailpipe. What else can I try....Vehicle is a part time user evident by mileage(64K). Runs Pisa once started...solid running truck. Years ago only had to plugin at 20 degrees or colder....now it's constant....another thread for 6.0 suggested FIMC module I believe...no idea if the 7.3 is similar?

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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 01:54 PM
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Have you TESTED the glow plug relay and glow plugs?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue
Have you TESTED the glow plug relay and glow plugs?
Yes, All new plugs and relay....have voltage on GP side of relay as well.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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Note: New GP sold are two inches shorter then those I removed....looked at 3 different Manufactures n all listed same length GP.....not sure if that could be the issue?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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What brand of GPs and relay?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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You may have 12v going to the relay but NOT getting 12v OUT of the relay

You want to use a Multimeter. Check voltage going into the relay and Out of the really. There should be no more than 0.5 volt difference.

As for what madpogue si getting at. I HOPE you use Beru or motor craft GlowPlugs. Anything else is GUARANTEED to cause problems

As for the relay, the BEST and cheapest(just happened to be cheaP) is the Western #56131 and I have yet to have one fain in over 10 years. About $14. While ford, IH, Napa and other get $75 and only last a season or 2
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM_Diesel
94 F350 w/7.3 Turbo. Will not start without block heater plugging in. Replaced Glow Plugs, Relay after realizing 6 plugs were bad. Bowl heater also was replaced but missing 12VDC so not working....
Plugged in truck starts right up, not plugged in won't start fuel mist pours out tailpipe. What else can I try....Vehicle is a part time user evident by mileage(64K). Runs Pisa once started...solid running truck. Years ago only had to plugin at 20 degrees or colder....now it's constant....another thread for 6.0 suggested FIMC module I believe...no idea if the 7.3 is similar?

Appreciate pointers.
Thanks!!!
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Note: New GP sold are two inches shorter then those I removed....looked at 3 different Manufactures n all listed same length GP.....not sure if that could be the issue?
The 94 turbo could be either an IDI or a Powerstroke engine. If the glowplugs you installed are 2" shorter than the ones removed, they are for an IDI. Did you have to remove the valve covers to get to the glow plugs?If so you have a Powerstroke engine, and need the ZD11 glow plugs. The ZD9 plugs for the IDI will fit into the stroke, but will do you no good as they will not reach the combustion chamber.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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Had a run several years back where I replaced 3 glow plug relays in 4 years in my '97 7.3l. Heard there was a bad batch of relays. I'm at least 3 years on this relay with no issues and lots of cold starts here in Alaska. I'd say change the glow plug relay again.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM_Diesel
Note: New GP sold are two inches shorter then those I removed....looked at 3 different Manufactures n all listed same length GP.....not sure if that could be the issue?
Somehow I totally miss this.

THAT is your problem right there

Powerstrokes (8 digit of vin is a F) use glow plugs that are 5-1/8" long
 
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Old Jan 19, 2014 | 07:29 AM
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Note: New GP sold are two inches shorter then those I removed....looked at 3 different Manufactures n all listed same length GP.....not sure if that could be the issue?
Transition years are always a pain in the whoo haa. If you changed them the last time you should remember. An idi is fairly easy to change them cause there on the top of the motor. If that's the case then tell them it's a 93. If you have to go in the valve covers to replace them(a nasty process) then it's a powerstroke and order for a 95. Mine is a 97 but the parts guy thinks it's a 96 lol
 
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Better not to tell them what it is. Tell them what part number you need.
 
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