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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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The kit does at least have a separate power lead for each light, it's not a single lead wired across the bulbs in parallel. The bit about the connectors is right though.....I remember that the terminals were kinda like a packard style crimp. I popped the ones that connect to the headlights out and hit them with some solder.
The power leads do not appear to be fused.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 1986F150six
The power leads do not appear to be fused.
That's not something I would install. But there's an easy fix. I picked up a fuse holder like the one shown below and put it between the battery stud on the solenoid and the hot feed to the relays.

 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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The pictured kit, or one like it, is ok for a quick fix, or if you want to easily revert back to original for concours showing, but I wouldn't want to reuse my old headlight terminal on an daily driver.
I prefer to just clip the ends off and fit new terminals to connect to the relays, if enough length, or use non-insulated high temp butt connectors and heat shrink adhesive lined tubing to splice in to get to the relay.

Yeah, #14 would be fine between the relays and headlamps.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1986F150six
The power leads do not appear to be fused.
This is the instruction sheet pulled from another site. I would interpret it to mean the red wires that connect to the battery positive are fusible link.


 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rovernut
The pictured kit, or one like it, is ok for a quick fix, or if you want to easily revert back to original for concours showing, but I wouldn't want to reuse my old headlight terminal on an daily driver..
On the kits like the one linked, you only connect one of your old terminals/plugs to the harness. It then activates the relays. As such it means you only have almost no load on the original headlight terminal and wiring....we're talking maybe 100 milliamps (one tenth of one amp) for each relay max.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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Sorry, but that smoke is for British cars as theirs spirals out in a right-hand spiral. He needs left-hand smoke.
Na, that's Northern Hemisphere smoke, you will be OK.

It's our Southern Hemisphere smoke you need to watch out for
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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Avoid cheap connectors and small wiring at all costs. Halogen globes love a good strong supply of current. As does any resistive load really.

For my driving lights on my 4x4 I built my own loom, using 8ga cable from the batt to a thermo fan power block I had spare ( check the wreckers yard for these, they take a single power feed through 2 x 30 amp slow blow fuses to 2 outputs) then to 2 30 amp relays to feed each light, with the lights earthed direct back to the battery. The wiring from the fuses onward and back to the batt was metric stuff I had it the closest it would be in imp. is 10ga.
With the lights running ( 2 x 150 watts) I only get 0.3v of voltage drop from the batt to the lights themselves. FYI if you want excellent driving lights, the FYRLYT units are superb
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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I'm going to do something similar, although I'm going with a mid-90's F-series power distribution block. Has a 150 amp maxi fuse on the input to take the output of the 3G I'm installing, and places for several relays and fuses. I'll have one relay that will be key-on, and the headlight relays will be pulled in via that relay so you cannot leave the lights on with the key off. And, the heater blower's supply will be a relay there as well, so there'll be very little going through the interior fuse block and ignition switch.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SSellers
On the kits like the one linked, you only connect one of your old terminals/plugs to the harness. It then activates the relays. As such it means you only have almost no load on the original headlight terminal and wiring....we're talking maybe 100 milliamps (one tenth of one amp) for each relay max.
My reasoning is because it's just another (unneeded) connector to cause problems.

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The wiring from the fuses onward and back to the batt was metric stuff I had it the closest it would be in imp. is 10ga.
We're talking headlamps here. No where near 150 watts, and it's a short run.
14ga will only give a 0.07v drop over 5'.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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If I read this correctly-- the factory headlight switch has ALL the headlight current going through it?? What about the high beam switch, does it act as a SPDT switch and switch the common (+12V) to the low beam to high beam circuit (and vice versa)? I assume this carries the whole load too?

I will add a relay to mine ASAP if this is the case. I have no issues yet, but don't want any either.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Yes, the headlight switch carries all the current. And, while I've not looked, the high-beam switch has to be a SPDT and it has to carry the full load as well. But, I'll look tomorrow to make sure.

Anyway, makes you feel comfortable, right?
 
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