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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 06:47 PM
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I don't fold mine in traffic, but I have been known to extend the tow mirrors when approaching a SRW Ram with his mirrors flipped up! You have to figure that at least once in a while one of them thinks about how stupid I am then has a moment of clarity.
If I had a Ram I'd be driving with my mirrors flipped up all the time, don't care what anyone else says. Moose are cool.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 09:52 PM
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Have you pursued a warranty claim? Given your mileage and time frame, wouldn't this problem fall under the 3yr/36K?

I use my fold option pretty often. A couple years ago my wife and I were meeting our children and grandchildren at a local eatery, and as I watched my then 9 year old granddaughter running between cars in the parking lot in a hurry to come see grandma, BAM! She practically ripped the top of her head off when she smacked a pickup mirror. Felt so sorry for the kiddo. I try to fold them in for that reason and for those inconsiderate bafoons that will fold it in for you while your out in the north forty while at some big box store.

I spoke with the service dept about getting them replaced and I was told it would require the truck to be dropped off and a computer scan to rule out problems on the truck side.

Simple enough for most, I'm tuned/deleted.

I didn't think the mirror was worth showing Ford some of my "upgrades" and returning it to stock is way too much work over a folding mirror.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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Why would tuned/deleted affect the portion of the warranty that applies to the mirrors? Or you just don't want the dealer to see your truck at all now that it's modded?

My mirrors (one or both) will refuse to fold in if I wash it in the winter and then try to fold them after bringing it inside. Once it warms up and melts they've always worked fine.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 08:22 AM
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Update

I just got back from the dealer this morning, i got a shiny new set of running boards. They also checked out my mirror and took a bunch of pictures and submitted a claim into Ford and were waiting for approval. The service manger didn't think it would be a problem getting them covered because their was no signs of physical damage so we'll see what Ford says...
 
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Baja16
I just got back from the dealer this morning, i got a shiny new set of running boards. They also checked out my mirror and took a bunch of pictures and submitted a claim into Ford and were waiting for approval. The service manger didn't think it would be a problem getting them covered because their was no signs of physical damage so we'll see what Ford says...

Very cool on the running boards. Why were they changed under waranty?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Baja16
I just got back from the dealer this morning, i got a shiny new set of running boards. They also checked out my mirror and took a bunch of pictures and submitted a claim into Ford and were waiting for approval. The service manger didn't think it would be a problem getting them covered because their was no signs of physical damage so we'll see what Ford says...
Thanks for the update, Baja16! Feel free to PM me if you need any assistance from my neck of the woods.

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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew010
I spoke with the service dept about getting them replaced and I was told it would require the truck to be dropped off and a computer scan to rule out problems on the truck side.

Simple enough for most, I'm tuned/deleted.

I didn't think the mirror was worth showing Ford some of my "upgrades" and returning it to stock is way too much work over a folding mirror.
I guess I don't see the logic in your thinking, but, hey, "to each their own."
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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Very cool on the running boards. Why were they changed under waranty?
Yes the chrome was peeling off in a few places and Ford replaced them for me. When i took my truck to the dealer originally i had them do my annual inspection and had them look at the running boards. Then after that first visit i noticed the passenger side mirror stop folding so when the new running boards came in and i took the truck back to get them installed, I had my dealer look at the mirrors.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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Another Update

I got a call yesterday from my dealer and he said they got a new mirror in the box waiting for me.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2014 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by marchare011
I guess I don't see the logic in your thinking, but, hey, "to each their own."

I go to dealer to have mirror looked at. Part of that process is plugging into the OBDll port. Tech plugs into my truck and finds the computer has been over written and he can't do anything. It wouldn't take a genius to see the truck is tuned and I would all but guarantee all of this would be logged in the computer for future reference. So if my truck does have a problem one day and I return it to stock to have a turbo replaced or whatnot I'm sure Ford would use this earlier discovery of being tuned as a warranty denial.

I can't flash the computer back to stock without the rockship and that's too much work for a mirror.


Does that make more sense?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2014 | 08:12 AM
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Federal law states that they would have to prove that the modification done to the truck caused the failure of the mirror or any other part for that matter in order to deny it.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2014 | 08:15 AM
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I'm not saying they would deny warranty on the mirror.

It's when the turbo blows up or some other powertrain failure along those lines needs worked on and they look back to when the mirror was replaced and see the truck was tuned then.

I know they will replace both mirrors today, it's what won't be covered down the road since they know the truck is tuned that concerns me.


If they didn't have to plug into the computer to replace the mirror (which I think is stupid) this wouldn't be an issue.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2014 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew010
I go to dealer to have mirror looked at. Part of that process is plugging into the OBDll port. Tech plugs into my truck and finds the computer has been over written and he can't do anything. It wouldn't take a genius to see the truck is tuned and I would all but guarantee all of this would be logged in the computer for future reference. So if my truck does have a problem one day and I return it to stock to have a turbo replaced or whatnot I'm sure Ford would use this earlier discovery of being tuned as a warranty denial.

I can't flash the computer back to stock without the rockship and that's too much work for a mirror.


Does that make more sense?
Oh I understood what you were getting at. It's just that, you can't return the truck to stock. Once you decided to tune it, (which I wish I could do), I think you consented to warranty denial on the majority of the truck, (which sucks). A tuned engine should not disqualify a broken mirror.



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Federal law states that they would have to prove that the modification done to the truck caused the failure of the mirror or any other part for that matter in order to deny it.

This is what I wanted to say earlier but didn't. I wish there was someone on the side of the consumer to fight these ridiculous denied claims by manufacturers.


Originally Posted by Andrew010
I'm not saying they would deny warranty on the mirror.

It's when the turbo blows up or some other powertrain failure along those lines needs worked on and they look back to when the mirror was replaced and see the truck was tuned then.

I know they will replace both mirrors today, it's what won't be covered down the road since they know the truck is tuned that concerns me.


If they didn't have to plug into the computer to replace the mirror (which I think is stupid) this wouldn't be an issue.

I agree with this philosophy, in part. I think my previous statement applies here as well. It's tragic if a tuned engine disqualifies a broken mirror. You made the choice to tune, LUCKY!!! :-) - and I don't think there's any going back. If the turbo blows they're still going to plug in and check the computer and see that you're tuned and they will deny warranty.

I hope you get satisfaction which ever way you go. 4000 miles from now when your out of bumper to bumper coverage and something else happens (God forbid) and you go to the dealer for a drive train issue and they won't cover it anyway, at least maybe, maybe they would have replaced the $1100 mirror.

I'm not trying to argue with you or change your thinking. Just sharing my perspective. Good luck!
 
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew010
I'm not saying they would deny warranty on the mirror.

It's when the turbo blows up or some other powertrain failure along those lines needs worked on and they look back to when the mirror was replaced and see the truck was tuned then.

I know they will replace both mirrors today, it's what won't be covered down the road since they know the truck is tuned that concerns me.


If they didn't have to plug into the computer to replace the mirror (which I think is stupid) this wouldn't be an issue.
I don't think they plug their scan tool into your truck to look for a tuned engine when you go in for a mirror replacement.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 09:08 AM
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I don't think they plug their scan tool into your truck to look for a tuned engine when you go in for a mirror replacement.
Actually, yes they will per my dealership here. I asked when Andrew first told me about this to confirm.
 
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