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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 10:58 PM
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Ok another cold start issue. I verified gps good relay good batts good smoke out tail pipe acts like it wants to start but just dont quite catch tack around 200 rpm. Now it is -10 here and wind chill around -30 drove to the store ran like it was cold but good idled there then started home, this is when it started acting funny like I was loosing fuel then died. Checked hpop full pulled filter full and warm, made sure uvch were plugged in. Next I tried unplugging icp did notice a small amount of oil on connections, cranked and it started but ran real rough then died, plugged it back in would not start, repeated this twice with same result. Third time would not start with ICP unplugged or plugged. Also SES light is on which I am sure has to do with unplugging the icp.
So do you all think I am good to replace icp and drive away?

Oh yeah fresh oil too and full.
Full bottle of diesel 911 in the tank
Injectors uvch and motorcraft glow plugs only a year old
 

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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 11:39 PM
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What about the glow plug relay, is it new to. Sounds like gelled fuel but you said it had 911 in the tank. Was this before it stopped or after for the 911? Mitt have to change the filter if it gelled. Could be a bad CPS also.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 11:39 PM
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The truck should run even with a completely bad ICP sensor.

Can you verify fuel and oil pressure? What is your voltage while cranking? A battery may sometimes read okay when sitting, but dips way below the threshold while cranking. If you can get the batteries tested I would do that too.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 12:29 AM
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had 911 in it and added full bottle fuel in bowl was liquid and warm and relay is working and less then a year old. Engine was warm when it died had been running for 30 minutes.
also two days before it did a similar act and had it towed back to mechanic icp ipr hpop everything read good found that fuel bowl heater was unplugged and started right up "fluke" as it was stored in doors all night and still didnt start. Fuel filter is less then a weak old. Not sure what other info to give. Any thoughts?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by omahaford
Any thoughts?
I would start with what I mentioned in my previous post.

Check fuel and high pressure oil pressure. Load test batteries.
 
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CPS is cheap even at the dealer, I would buy OEM only. Under $30.oo, I would try and see if that helps.
 
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Originally Posted by Bonanza35
CPS is cheap even at the dealer, I would buy OEM only. Under $30.oo, I would try and see if that helps.
Worth a shot, but he said his tach is registering, so probably not that.
 
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I missed the tach part or just for got.
 
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Originally Posted by omahaford
Now it is -10 here...
15-40 oil doesn't like that. What's in the pan?

Originally Posted by omahaford
...found that fuel bowl heater was unplugged...
Does your WTS light come on?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:28 AM
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15-40 oil doesn't like that. What's in the pan?



Does your WTS light come on?

wts comes on and yes I double checked the fuel bowl heater. I am thinking either combination of icp and fuel pick up screens or one or the other. It is new Castrol 15-40 but it did this the other day at 30 degrees also
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:35 AM
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It will start if the icp is good or bad, so I would rule that out. Sounds like a fuel pressure problem, i'd check that before spending any money on sensors.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:42 AM
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Sounds like fuel pick-up screens to me as well. Is that Castrol diesel rated oil?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by HKusp
Sounds like fuel pick-up screens to me as well. Is that Castrol diesel rated oil?
Yes it is diesel oil.
What is the easiest way to check fuel pressure on the side of the road when its -30 wind chill.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by A/Ox4
The truck should run even with a completely bad ICP sensor.

Originally Posted by Jmatthews
It will start if the icp is good or bad, so I would rule that out.

Not necessarily, guys.

I'm certainly not saying that the injection control pressure sensor is the problem here. However, these two statements can be false depending on the nature of the sensor failure.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by omahaford
Yes it is diesel oil.
What is the easiest way to check fuel pressure on the side of the road when its -30 wind chill.
There is no easy way. What I would do is to pull the fuel line before the pump under the drivers side frame rail. I would then take compressed air and blow it back through the line into the tank. If it is clogged screens, this should clear the issue. If it is a bad pump, it won't.
 
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