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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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Engine bucking/missing inconsistently. Got codes

Ok, took truck out for a drive it started to buck/jerk and engine hesitated all upon giving it throttle. But it was inconsistent.

KOEO: 565 (O) Canister Purge 1 solenoid/circuit failure - Solenoids

Not sure what that means...

KOER: 723....can't find what that code means anywhere

632: Transmission control switch

Not sure what that means either. I am worthless, I know

I would appreciate any guidance! Thank you in advance
 
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 06:01 AM
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I assume you're talking about the '93 in your signature?

Code 565: This code refers to the purge solenoid for the charcoal canister. It's either malfunctioning or there is a problem occurring (bad ground, bad signal, etc) when the computer instructs it to open and purge the canister.

Code 632 refers to the overdrive cancel switch. When you're running the KOER test, you need to press it on and off so the computer knows it's working. In short: operator error.

Are you sure it was code 723? Did you retrieve these codes with a scanner or counting CEL blinks? Likewise, I was unable to find a definition for it.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DBGrif91
I assume you're talking about the '93 in your signature?

Code 565: This code refers to the purge solenoid for the charcoal canister. It's either malfunctioning or there is a problem occurring (bad ground, bad signal, etc) when the computer instructs it to open and purge the canister.

Code 632 refers to the overdrive cancel switch. When you're running the KOER test, you need to press it on and off so the computer knows it's working. In short: operator error.

Are you sure it was code 723? Did you retrieve these codes with a scanner or counting CEL blinks? Likewise, I was unable to find a definition for it.
Yes sir, sorry the ol '93. Ok, so that is that coffee can looking thing. Are there replacements? I will check around, just seems to be one of those parts that I might have to go to a "U-Pull" yard.

ha ha ha...ok ok, yea well that wouldn't be the first time for me something was the cause of operator error----me being the operator So, that explains why that code only came up the first time when I didn't hit that OD switch

I retrieved the codes by shorting the EEC self test with a jumper wire. I counted CEL blinks and got 723, three times in a row. I don't even find any 700 series codes for any OBD1 engines.
I know it won't run while trying to go in gear. It idles great though, all day. Put 'er in drive, go down the road a bit and it starts doing it's thing.
So, I go home and check these codes and this is what I got.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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Ok, so Ill check the codes again but, I read sometimes it flashes (CEL) flashes 3 times between codes. Is it possible I have a Code 72: Insufficient MAP change during Dynamic Response Test??
 
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 11:40 PM
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You will get either two or three digit codes. Not a mix of both. FYI..there are no 7xx OBD-I codes.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
You will get either two or three digit codes. Not a mix of both. FYI..there are no 7xx OBD-I codes.
Ok so I'll check them again. I know for sure the other code though. I was wondering about the 700 series codes......they all stopped at the 600's¡
 
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Ok, so that is that coffee can looking thing. Are there replacements? I will check around, just seems to be one of those parts that I might have to go to a "U-Pull" yard.
The "coffee can" looking thing you're referring to is probably a vacuum reservoir.

The charcoal canister is usually mounted in the lower right front side of the engine bay. What you really want to look for to find it is a vacuum hose that hooks into your throttle body that traces back toward the front of the engine bay. Spliced somewhere in that hose you should find a solenoid- that is the canister purge solenoid. It will look something like this: NAPA AUTO PARTS

That's what the code 565 is referring to. Either the solenoid is bad or there is a bad connection in the circuit that's causing it to not operate correctly.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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Ok great, I have located that under the hood...connection LOOKS good and the part aint exactly cheap cheap but not really expensive so Ill replace it.
Ive got to run the codes again and see about that 723 code....see what that was supposed to be.
Probably made an input error to start the dynamic test. Ill have to look at the procedure again and give it another go!
Thanks again....will report back
 
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 11:34 PM
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Verify codes again. You may want to invest in one of those cheap Ford OBD-1 code readers, they're only about $20-30 or so.

If you are getting garbage codes however, I'd suspect a computer failure.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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Ok will do. I will be able to later this evening...at the in-laws right now. Thank you for the info on a possible bad computer. I will see if I can get a cheap code reader....Ill probably need it in the future. I will try to jumper trick again and if it does throw me another 723, Ill have to check that computer.

If that computer is bad....my father-in-law has a 302 (early 90's) with the computer on it still...would that work for a swap over?
Thanks again!
 
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Ok will do. I will be able to later this evening...at the in-laws right now. Thank you for the info on a possible bad computer. I will see if I can get a cheap code reader....Ill probably need it in the future. I will try to jumper trick again and if it does throw me another 723, Ill have to check that computer.

If that computer is bad....my father-in-law has a 302 (early 90's) with the computer on it still...would that work for a swap over?
Thanks again!
I'm not certain, but I think the computer from the other truck will have to be at least 1993 or newer. Try doing an advanced search on this forum- there's plenty of threads on the issue of computer swaps.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FX4-350
Ok will do. I will be able to later this evening...at the in-laws right now. Thank you for the info on a possible bad computer. I will see if I can get a cheap code reader....Ill probably need it in the future. I will try to jumper trick again and if it does throw me another 723, Ill have to check that computer.

If that computer is bad....my father-in-law has a 302 (early 90's) with the computer on it still...would that work for a swap over?
Thanks again!
What transmission is in the donor truck? What engine does your truck have?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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I am not sure which transmission donor truck has....he just got the engine. I've for the 351w
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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Ok I changed that canister purge solenoid and it seems to be doing MUCH better. I haven't driven it yet because I put some quiksteel over an exhaust leak and am going to let it sit a couple days to cure. From giving it gas however it seemed to have started better and when I goose the throttle it doesn't make that sputter sound so much.

Didn't have a chance to check codes again. That polar vortex is blowing right now in NC and am minimizing exposure since Ill be out in it all day tomorrow!! (stupid global warming)

One thing I did have and forgot...please tell me if this is a big deal. There is a "nipple" coming off of the passenger side-rear of the upper intake. It was plugged when I bought the truck. Now I have seen pictures of others like it and they had a hose going from there to the PCV valve. Would this help it run better having it unplugged going to PCV valve or not much difference? I hadn't done it yet because I didn't want to undo something that should be done!

The truck almost acted as though it were being choked when you gave it gas but would idle fine
Thank you very much gents
 

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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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I am not sure which transmission donor truck has....he just got the engine. I've for the 351w
The donor computer will not work for your truck since you have two different engines.
 
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