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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 08:19 PM
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waterless coolant?

http://www.dieselsite.com/evansnpgnp...uantities.aspx

I stumbled across this coolant the other day advertised by dieselsite and was wondering if anybody heard of this or thought it was a good or bad idea to run it in our trucks
 
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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I know a few folks who run it in their trucks and they seem very pleased with the performance of the coolant. If I towed full time I would probably use the stuff myself.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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Barney (bfife) runs it in his dually. Give him a shout.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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I've been using it for atleast 3-4 years now. Nice clean clear coolant. Flush good and use a bypass filter. Get another cap for your degas bottle and drill a small hole in it. Run that for a few hundred miles to allow the water you can't get out to boil off, you'll know most of it is gone when theres little condesation left in the top of bottle. Then put the good cap back on. No, its not necessarily a 0 pressure system.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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That is some very interesting reading. Something to definitely consider.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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i had considered using it years ago, but could not justify spending that much on coolant.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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I used it in one of my race cars for a while. I personally didn't notice any difference in the performance of my cooling. For some people, the ability to run the cooling system at 0 pressure is a benefit. For some, the tolerance of higher temps is a benefit. For some, the waterless aspect is a benefit.

For these trucks, I don't see a benefit. The stock cooling system is very robust. Just do a good flush on it, add a filter and use some good coolant and you're good to go.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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I ran it for a about 100K, then had a water pump go, followed by an oil cooler, followed by a radiator....and waiting for shipping etc was a PIA So I went with CAT ELC. It worked well and I never had any issues with it (all the failures high mileage 300K +) but the only benefit I ever really saw was how easy it was to keep the cooling system leak free. Now that I am back to reg ELC it feels like I am fighting leaks everytime the weather changes.

If you decide to go that route let me know, I have 4 gallons of the NPG+ I would let go cheap.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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I've run Evans in all my powerstrokes since 2005. I love the stuff. Probably 250,000 miles on it.
Steve, I'm in Spokane right now and will be back and forth between here and Medford all summer. If you still have yours in the spring, I'll buy it.

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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 01:38 AM
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what id want it for is the fact that is a low pressure system, I as well fight leaks whenever the weather changes and it gets old after a while, I also like the fact that its water less. Im not dedicated to using it i just found it and was curious. bfife is that 250000 service free?
 
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 04:28 AM
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I saw it in Barney's truck... talk about looking like clean-ish oil in the degas bottle.

I, too, lost too much coolant this year. I lost it to a pump, to an oil cooler, to cups (twice), and to a mechanic that didn't secure my dual-alternator hose. I'm running green until Stinky gets past the terrible twos.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 06:21 AM
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That's not much more than the ELC I bought from oReilly's @ $25 per gallon.....
 
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by diehardstroker
what id want it for is the fact that is a low pressure system, I as well fight leaks whenever the weather changes and it gets old after a while, I also like the fact that its water less. Im not dedicated to using it i just found it and was curious. bfife is that 250000 service free?
I didn't run zero pressure because it was unclear as to whether the water pump seal needed pressure or not. I still don't know. Maybe Barney will fill us in on whether he kept a pressure cap or not. That amount of miles would tell the story. 0 pressure does have advantages for hoses and less leak potential. No water, no rust. It looks like iced tea, or as Rich observed, "clean oil".
 
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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that's right, 250K and no leaks, no hoses, no water pumps. I do run it at 0 pressure. Never have to worry about a blown hose again. also never have seen my trucks run hot. even climbing Stevens pass in august with 18K behind it. I like the stuff.

Barney
 
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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Well there you have boys and girls, real world proof, not just advertising.
 
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