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After some research, looks like your going to need to get a code reader to be able to tell which one goes bad, then have a diagram in the glove box showing location of each that will be code dependent.
1 is closest to the front of the truck, 4 is closest to rear of truck.
still need the reader and cross reference to id the sensor number
need the reader to reset the code anyhow.
With the info screen on the 13 there is the ability to enter the diagnostics and check for codes. What type and if there is an explanation I do not know.
When I opened up the information screen during my #2 sensor failure, the screen said "No DTC's". Needed a code reader to identify which sensor and then to clear the codes.
If you've experienced this concern, reach out to me via PM so I can get this documented and into the hands of people who can help. In your message, be sure to include your full name, best daytime phone number, VIN, mileage, and servicing dealership.
Does anyone know if the module/computer is looking for a certain resistance in these sensors? Probably a lot more complicated than that but if it is as simple as resistance would it be feasible to build a resistor pack with resistance value in the proper range that can be plugged into the sensor connector temporarily. Granted you would still need a code reader and a connector that fits but soldering resistors to get a proper value would be easy. Probably a hundred reasons why it's not possible but thought id throw it out for the many of you out here much smarter than I. Would like to take a meter to a known good, known bad and sensor at operating temp just for S & G.
I see the 7.3s cam position sensor happening all over again. As I've stated before, unfortunately it will take people getting hurt before NHTSA will step in and force them to do something. They knew the sensors were failing and took years to stop it. Looks like we are there again. Just not to that extent yet.
While these failures are rare for now, what happens as these trucks age? And yes, my Edge CTS can read and clear codes but I also carry an Innova scanner with me along with kpers list of DTCs all the time.
Does anyone know if the module/computer is looking for a certain resistance in these sensors? Probably a lot more complicated than that but if it is as simple as resistance would it be feasible to build a resistor pack with resistance value in the proper range that can be plugged into the sensor connector temporarily. Granted you would still need a code reader and a connector that fits but soldering resistors to get a proper value would be easy. Probably a hundred reasons why it's not possible but thought id throw it out for the many of you out here much smarter than I. Would like to take a meter to a known good, known bad and sensor at operating temp just for S & G.
The sensors are thermocouples, they do have a resistance, but the computer only uses that to verify no open circuit condition exists at start up.
As exhaust temperature rises, the sensors output in millivolts. the computer uses the strength of the millivolt signal to monitor temps.
My understanding from reading the tsb is the sensors fail internally, and shows very high temps, causing a forced shutdown by the engine protection programming. Thus the STOP SAFELY NOW, and no way of moving.
Like someone posted on another EGT thread... If you had a spare sensor on-board and identified (CTS etc.) which sensor had failed, could you just plug in the new sensor (without actually removing the old one) and keep on rolling until you had the time and suitable place to replace it.
This could get you back on the road within 15 minutes instead of having to wait until the exhaust cooled, getting the old sensor out of the exhaust and cursing in front of the wife and kids.
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