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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 05:04 AM
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Wink Oil Filters??

A while back there was a thread on oil filters, I have searched and can't find it-the search function seems different on my end these days.....

My question is there a bigger filter that will fit our 7.3s from International or aftermarket?

seems there was a larger one from a DT466?? that would fit??

I have 2wd dually and don't off-road so clearance isn't an issue.

at my next oil change I'm thinking about going to Mobil 1 15w40 or 5w40 full synthetic oil and a bigger filter......
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 06:35 AM
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If you want a bigger filter, get the Amsoil dual oil filter bypass kit. You will have 2 factory size spin on filters. They (Amsoil) say you never have to do a full oil change again (if you use their oil) use but only top off the oil level when you change the filters. You do have to be consistent with oil analysis if you try and extend the oil life.
I run their oil and filter but I only go 15000 between full changes with oil analysis done every 5000.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 09:45 AM
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I run an ELF7405 (about double the size of a regular filter) with an Amsoil bypass on Rotella T6
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 7.3Excursion4x4
If you want a bigger filter, get the Amsoil dual oil filter bypass kit. You will have 2 factory size spin on filters. They (Amsoil) say you never have to do a full oil change again (if you use their oil) use but only top off the oil level when you change the filters. You do have to be consistent with oil analysis if you try and extend the oil life.
I run their oil and filter but I only go 15000 between full changes with oil analysis done every 5000.
When I first ran Amsoil's synthetic diesel oil, I found that it sheared down to a 30 weight oil somewhere between 8K and 13K miles... it just did not provide teh advertised shear stabiilty for the even the minimum level of extended OCI I was targeting (15k-20K miles). I switched back off of it and won't run it any more. I am also running an oversized bypass system built from Racor components, but I don't want to run a 30 weight oil for the last portion of my extended OCI's.

I'm not trying to start any kind of oil brand war, nor will I participate in one... just sharing my real world experience.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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I agree with DiverDan above, if you just want a larger full-flow filter, the ELF-7405 is the one to use. However,

Two additional filters in this class are the Fleetguard LF9027, and the hella-long Fleetguard "ES" LF9691. Both have a stack-plate bypass element built-in.

By using bypass filtration (Baldwin's, not Amsoil's), i am able to dependably extend drain intervals to 15,000 miles, and that's on Dino Delo, which is sheared to 30-weight by 18,000 in my engine. There comes a point at which...............

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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I run an ELF7405 (about double the size of a regular filter) with an Amsoil bypass on Rotella T6
I'll second the ELF. It fits fine, and sorry I can't quote the info but I remember it being much more efficient than the Motorcraft. They can be had for 23-30 bucks.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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kinda off topic, what about them centrifugal type of deals?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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I have a bypass system in my truck. I did one extended interval with an analysis, I think it was 10k. Its great for removing wear contaminates, but does nothing for shear. Run the best oil and filter you can with OEM recommended intervals and forget about oil analysis and extended oil changes. Unless you drive a whole lot of miles, its a waste of time and money.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by stinson 108-1
Run the best oil and filter you can with OEM recommended intervals and forget about oil analysis and extended oil changes. Unless you drive a whole lot of miles, its a waste of time and money.
To each their own, but I completely disagree with this.

With the schedule I use, I am not saving any money.

However, for about the same money spent I have a HECKUVA lot more information about the health of my engine than I would by simply dumping it.

That's worth the additional time I invest.

At least to me.

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I'm in the same camp as Pop, but I just don't do as many UOA's since I've established my tolerance point on OCI's.

There is also the simple fact that some oils will shear faster than others. When choosing an oil, review all the data you can find on it from the oil manufacturer, and look closely at the Viscosity Index and Shear Stability numbers. Higher is better for both values, but not all manufacturers make that information available, and if they don't you have to ask "Why?".

Caveat emptor (let the buyer beware).
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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Ok, I concede to Pops point of knowing the engines health, but if your using name brand oil and filter at recommended intervals, what else can you do. Don't get me wrong, I believe in filtering everything as much as possible, just look at my sig. But extending oil changes and doing an analysis every time just to get the most milage from your oil doesn't seem worth it. Its just an oil change.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by stinson 108-1
Its just an oil change.
I pretty much fall into this category. I will get my first UOA at the end of this current OCI, but I'm not worried about extending intervals or monitoring engine health any more often then that. However, I can completely understand one's want to monitor that information. Maybe I'm not worried about extended OCI's because it takes a full 6 months for me to go 5k. If I were racking up miles like mad it could be a different story.

F250_, you seem very knowledgeable in every oil thread I view. I simply want to know which oil you use, because I'd be game to switch to that.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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All I really want is a bigger screw-on filter at the stock location........and like I say I am going to try the Mobil 1 synthetic @ my next oil change....

Is this the ELF7405 I want? seems reasonable @$11.66 each to the door:http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLEETGUARD-LF691A-CASE-OF-6-XREF-B7299-ELF7405-51792MP-/271343337207?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f2d52bef7&vxp=mtr
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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The stock filter holds darn near two quarts of oil out of nearly FIVE GALLONS! What in the world are you looking to accomplish with a bigger filter?

These engines are by in large lasting much longer than the truck on cheap delo or rotella. Oil related failures are rare preventable engine failures from information gleaned from oil analysis are even rarer still. My advice is to follow factory service intervals, use a quality OE grade filter and then save the worry for the long term stability of our present day form of civilization
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Supercab
All I really want is a bigger screw-on filter at the stock location........and like I say I am going to try the Mobil 1 synthetic @ my next oil change....

Is this the ELF7405 I want? seems reasonable @$11.66 each to the door:Fleetguard LF691A Case of 6 Xref B7299 ELF7405 51792MP | eBay
I am not sure, hope someone else knows. I bought one from Orielly once, that was Fleetguard I think, but the outside diameter was a little too big and it wouldn't fit.
 
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