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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Awesome, thanks for that. So is it possible that something with those other 2 sensors could be wrong that's causing me to still see 0 EBP at KOEO?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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I thought I posted this earlier but looking back I see that I didn't.. I do have a 4" turbo back, wouldn't that drop the back pressure?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckEnthusaist
I thought I posted this earlier but looking back I see that I didn't.. I do have a 4" turbo back, wouldn't that drop the back pressure?
Not to your extent and the other two sensors won't affect EBP at KOEO. EBP should be a bit higher than MAP at idle. I find it kind of strange that you get a very small reading.

I scanned through quickly and didn't see what you were using to read your parameters with......

Another test is to use some air and pressure up the sensors (MAP and EBP) to see if they respond.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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I guess I don't understand how you're supposed to get 14PSI +\- KOEO, how does it build back pressure without running?

But anyways, what do I need to do to get this thing within spec? Replace the connector?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckEnthusaist
I guess I don't understand how you're supposed to get 14PSI +\- KOEO, how does it build back pressure without running?

But anyways, what do I need to do to get this thing within spec? Replace the connector?
Basically the MAP, EBP, and BARO are calibrated to read atmospheric pressure at KOEO which is ~ 14.4 at sea level. All 3 sensors should read within 1.5 psi of each other at KOEO. That's an easy test to see if you have a bad sensor, wire, connector, etc. Since your EBP is reading 0 at KOEO there is a problem there somewhere.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckEnthusaist
I guess I don't understand how you're supposed to get 14PSI +\- KOEO, how does it build back pressure without running?

But anyways, what do I need to do to get this thing within spec? Replace the connector?
EBP, MAP and Baro are all reading barometric pressure KOEO. Therefore they should all read within .5 psi of each other.

Once the engine is running, EBP might show up to 16 psi, Map = Baro+ boost so you could see MAP up to 1 psi over Baro at idle.

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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Okay sorry for the dumb question that makes sense now. So I can rule out the sensor since it's brand new, so now what? How can I test the connector?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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What if you remove the EBP sensor, hook up the wire harness to it and see what you get at KOEO?
 
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Originally Posted by FordTruckEnthusaist
Okay sorry for the dumb question that makes sense now. So I can rule out the sensor since it's brand new, so now what? How can I test the connector?
Backprobe looking for the 5 volt vref signal and also look for the sensor output.

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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What are you using to take your readings with?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:02 AM
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Yesterday before I replaced the sensor I unplugged the sensor then started it to see what happened, and it was reading like 37 psi at idle, the turbo also sounded really weird I didn't dare drive it. I'm using the Edge Insight CTS to monitor.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckEnthusaist
Yesterday before I replaced the sensor I unplugged the sensor then started it to see what happened, and it was reading like 37 psi at idle, the turbo also sounded really weird I didn't dare drive it. I'm using the Edge Insight CTS to monitor.
And you're not getting any codes for EBP??
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
Basically the MAP, EBP, and BARO are calibrated to read atmospheric pressure at KOEO which is ~ 14.4 at sea level. All 3 sensors should read within 1.5 psi of each other at KOEO. That's an easy test to see if you have a bad sensor, wire, connector, etc. Since your EBP is reading 0 at KOEO there is a problem there somewhere.

I thought it was 14.7 at sea level? Which is correlating with pure octanes stoichiometric ratio .
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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I thought it was 14.7 at sea level? Which is correlating with pure octanes stoichiometric ratio .
14.summtin--LOL. Regardless they should read within 1.5 psi of each other at KOEO
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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And you're not getting any codes for EBP??
I have an Insight CTS too. I just went outside to my 2003. I live at about 950ft elevation in NH.

It has been plugged in but it's still a cold engine (104*) .... and I don't believe I have any driveability issues so here's what I got off my truck ...

KO/EO:
Boost - 0
Baro - 14.0
EBP - 0
Map PSI - 13 (no decimal place)

Crank the engine and let her low idle:
Boost - 0
Baro - 14.0
EBP - 2
Map PSI - 13/14 (bounces around between 14 and 13)

Run the rpm's up to 2,000 and try to hold for 3 - 4 seconds:
Boost - 2
Baro - 14.0
EBP - 4
Map PSI - 16
 
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