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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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Rough running if not plugged in.

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this. When this truck is plugged in, it runs like a new truck. If its 30* or below and its not plugged in it runs like an old D-8 CAT on a cold day, until it warms up. I bought this truck new in 05 and I don't remember it being this bad. Unfortunately I can't keep it plugged in a work. So is this normal with age or is there some other problem? THANKS in advance!
 
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 06:08 PM
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any idea of the FICM volts?

Could also be injector stiction.

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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Low on oil.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 06:32 PM
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As Josh says Most common if FICM Voltage

You should also check Batterys and Alternator
 
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Well, I know its not the oil. I just changed it. Batteries are 2yrs old. If it was voltage why would it run fine after it warms up?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWSSAA
Well, I know its not the oil. I just changed it. Batteries are 2yrs old. If it was voltage why would it run fine after it warms up?
If the FICM is having a voltage problem it will show up when it is cold as things contract when they cool and expand when heated so you would see the problem surface when the FICM is cold gradually getting better as it warms and completes the connection.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWSSAA
Well, I know its not the oil. I just changed it. Batteries are 2yrs old. If it was voltage why would it run fine after it warms up?
The FICM is stressed the most during cold start, if it cannot provide 45+ volts during the cold start and GP cycle then the engine runs like butt. ONce the GP cycle off and things start heating up the FICM can provide the volts needed to fire the injectors.

Along the same lines, the injectors are known for "Stiction." Long story short, stiction is a combo of Sticking and Friction. The injector spools, which are moved by engine oil, cannot move freely. They stick and when they do the injector does not fire properly when means again the engine runs like butt until the spools, oil and injector heat up allowing them to move freely.


Diagnostics would start with checking FICM voltage KOEO, crank and cold start low idle and high idle.

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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWSSAA
Well, I know its not the oil. I just changed it. Batteries are 2yrs old. If it was voltage why would it run fine after it warms up?

Well it Kinda is Related to your New Oil

your Old Oil was sheared thinner than the New Oil refer to josh post for the rest the storey
 
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what oil are you running ? 15w-40 or 5w-40 syth, run 5w-40 and check your ficm voltages. 5w-40 these truck seem to like it alot and run smoother and quieter
 
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mich6.0
what oil are you running ? 15w-40 or 5w-40 syth, run 5w-40 and check your ficm voltages. 5w-40 these truck seem to like it alot and run smoother and quieter
Rotella, which is 15W-40 I think. I will try and find someone who can check the FICM voltage, and go from there. Thanks again!
 
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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Checking the FICM voltage isn't difficult. There are some nice YouTube videos on the subject, and a write up in the tech folder. Or you can use a scan guage/torque/dashboss. You've had the truck a long time, do you already own a guage to read live data?
 
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I will add that if the issue just recently cropped up, it is likely a FICM issue.

I would tend to think Stiction would be a gradual problem that would slowly get worse and not just pop up one day and not be there before.

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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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I don't know much about the bulldog, but I would hope it could read FICM main voltage. That's the place to start. If you don't trust what it's telling you, then you could venture to the land of manually checking it.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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Like said, check your ficm voltages first. Then, change to 5w-40 synthetic and add rev x treatment to it. I had a bad case of stiction and after adding rev x and running it for a week or so the difference was night and day. Im not a big fan of oil additives, but i can say that it worked for me.
 
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