302 EFI conversion?
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Is there a pick n pull in your area? 1/2 off this weekend. That means a roller 302 or 351w could be yours for $150. Problem solved. I suggest removing the heads in the yard and checking for good cross hatches. These guys can suggest something better perhaps but the gt40p heads & cam from a 97-01 explorer 302 on top of a roller 351w would be a good setup. You might have to ding your headers to fit the spark plugs but this would be a budget performer. By performer I mean better than stock; not gonna set records though. Good for your application.
Slap a carb on it and your good to go. Efi later from the late 80's trucks as previously described.
Slap a carb on it and your good to go. Efi later from the late 80's trucks as previously described.
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Logistics Pro
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Interestingly enough I'm reviving this thread yet again lol.
Found a 302 out of a 88 2WD F150.
Owner says he's willing to part out the truck if I make a reasonable offer, so would this one do the trick?
Looking to see if I can mod this engine very much without having issues with the injection system.
Would an 88 302 truck have a MAF or MAP system in it?
Found a 302 out of a 88 2WD F150.
Owner says he's willing to part out the truck if I make a reasonable offer, so would this one do the trick?
Looking to see if I can mod this engine very much without having issues with the injection system.
Would an 88 302 truck have a MAF or MAP system in it?
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Neat to know that it's got the internals of a high output motor. Not sure what the difference between a HO and non-HO motor is yet, but it sounds good haha.
But I'm guessing the speed density system and flat tappet cam outweigh the fact that it's an HO motor.
What would you guys pay for a motor like that?
But I'm guessing the speed density system and flat tappet cam outweigh the fact that it's an HO motor.
What would you guys pay for a motor like that?
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A stock long block, regardless of type or application (unless its a specialty) is gonna be $150 - $200 unless papers and inspection indicate it was just reconditioned... Then perhaps a few hundred more. I am basing this on junkyard prices plus the cost to rebuild yourself. If the guy says $500, well thats the price for the whole frigging truck.
Lots of people are delusional and want more, and lots of people will pay more, but it can be had for way less.
Lots of people are delusional and want more, and lots of people will pay more, but it can be had for way less.
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Camshaft and pistons.
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Neat to know that it's got the internals of a high output motor. Not sure what the difference between a HO and non-HO motor is yet, but it sounds good haha.
But I'm guessing the speed density system and flat tappet cam outweigh the fact that it's an HO motor.
What would you guys pay for a motor like that?
But I'm guessing the speed density system and flat tappet cam outweigh the fact that it's an HO motor.
What would you guys pay for a motor like that?
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Good to know! I can get it for fairly cheap.
So it's a better starting point than what I've currently got sitting in the garage.
Thanks for the info. Don't have to worry about me, I take everything with a grain of salt. Especially when it comes to cars cause everyone wants to make a quick buck and sell you air...
So overall, this is a better and stronger starting point for an EFI 302 build, but I'm still missing the top end if I'm following this correctly. Cam would need to be changed and heads would definitely need to go for flow purposes.
For all I know, I may even be able to get a set of GT40P heads from the same guy that's selling me the engine. I know he collects early 90's Explorers and loves them like none other.
Looks like this may have some potential.
So it's a better starting point than what I've currently got sitting in the garage.
Don't let the "high ouput" blind you. It was rare for Ford to produce a separate engine line for high output engines. The HO Stang motor would be better charaterized as an "improved" output engine, with just a few special parts to boost the output, nothing special was done to the basic long block, the same long block was used in most of the 5.0's produced in the late 80's to mid 90's. Even the Vics, Towncars and Marquis used the same short block, but fitted with the "HO" heads of the 86 Stang's 5.0 to improve bottomend torque.
So overall, this is a better and stronger starting point for an EFI 302 build, but I'm still missing the top end if I'm following this correctly. Cam would need to be changed and heads would definitely need to go for flow purposes.
For all I know, I may even be able to get a set of GT40P heads from the same guy that's selling me the engine. I know he collects early 90's Explorers and loves them like none other.
Looks like this may have some potential.
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So overall, this is a better and stronger starting point for an EFI 302 build, but I'm still missing the top end if I'm following this correctly. Cam would need to be changed and heads would definitely need to go for flow purposes.
For all I know, I may even be able to get a set of GT40P heads from the same guy that's selling me the engine. I know he collects early 90's Explorers and loves them like none other.
Looks like this may have some potential.
For all I know, I may even be able to get a set of GT40P heads from the same guy that's selling me the engine. I know he collects early 90's Explorers and loves them like none other.
Looks like this may have some potential.
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Yes the '88 truck motor is a decent starting point but if you can get a complete Explorer motor that's even better because it comes with a factory roller cam which is pretty good but if you swap it for a high end performance cam at least you don't have to buy the rest of the roller drivetrain too(lifters, pushrods, spider retainer). And the Explorer intake is much better than what was found on any of the cars including the Mustang, this is a 300hp motor with nothing more than a cam change and full exhaust system.
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