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Old 11-03-2013, 07:22 PM
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Bad Oxygen Sensor without CEL?

My truck is in my sig. I've owned the vehicle for about a year and a half now. Approx 90k miles.

I was under the truck doing some looking around. And I noticed the O2 sensors -- they *appear* to be original. I have no way of confirming this, but they look like it. 11 years after manufacture, I'm wondering if the sensors are failing, or at least performing at sub-standard. I have never had a CEL in the time I've owned the rig, and it runs well. Still, I'm curious.

Is it possible for an O2 sensor to be "bad", or failing without a CEL? Is there a means to determine the sensor(s) health?
 
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:49 AM
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Don 't know how to check them but I believe on the heavier GVW trucks they don't require the CEL to come on for poor O2 sensors or intermittent misfires.
If you had a scan tool with engine diagnostic cababilities you may be able to check them.
 
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:21 PM
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O2 sensor question

Must have a scanner to look at them. Autozone rents it for 160.
 
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I had an '02 F250 with the 5.4. Had three bad coils and CEL never came on. Truck lost all compression in #7cyl, CEL still never came on. It would show codes when scanned just didn't light the CEL.
 
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Originally Posted by NovaNewfie
I had an '02 F250 with the 5.4. Had three bad coils and CEL never came on. Truck lost all compression in #7cyl, CEL still never came on. It would show codes when scanned just didn't light the CEL.
That is typical for the Federal OBD1 PCM calibrations. Misfires are non-MIL.
 
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