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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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High tubro boost

Here we go again.

I made a 200 mile trip over the weekend pulling a 7000# BBQ trailer that has a flat front with a clearance of 11'. With AE software I monitored MAP, VGT, EOT, ECT, ICP.

When pulling small hills my MAP would go over 30psi and VGT 43% at 2500rpms in 4th gear. On level ground going 60 -65 MAP 20psi VGT ~50% at less than 2000rpms in high gear. I had to keep my rpms below 2500 and as a result I would end up slowing down to 50mph on the up hills and slowly gain on the flat stretches of road. My MPG for the trip was 7.5. Due to the Boost issue and higher shift point in tow mode, I could not use tow mode.

I know that a dirty tubro can cause over boost but here is the odd part. AE will allow you to Close or Open the VGT. When I open the vgt my boost will drop to 14psi. VGT 0% and have no power while driving.

If the tubro or VGT was sticking/not working it would seem to me that changing the VGT with AE would not make that much of a difference. Why is the Truck computer not reacting to the MAP of 30 and dropping the VGT duty cycle %

Faulty MAP?
Faulty AE readings?

I do have an exhaust leak at the exhaust man on the drivers side and that's next on my list of thing to fix.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 12:45 PM
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When NOT running - isn't MAP normally 14 PSI (+/- based on altitude and atmospheric conditions)? IF so, then 30 is only 16 lbs of boost..

That's how my SG2 displays them anyway. I had an leak at my exhaust manifold to y-pipe and could NOT reach 20PSI boost. Now with the leak gone I've gotten 24PSI very easily now.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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My MAP reads around 13.5 at idle and KOEO. I have been told if the MAP goes above 28 you can blow your head gaskets.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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I don't have AE, but isn't there a way to read boost psi on it? At idle, the boost should be 0 psi or close to it.

I agree with Misky, I think your boost is roughly 16 psi when your map shows 30.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eddiedebb
My MAP reads around 13.5 at idle and KOEO. I have been told if the MAP goes above 28 you can blow your head gaskets.

If you look at MAP instead of Boost MAP is Fine up to 40-43psi

Boost Shouldn't bee over 30psi

Boost is MAP Minus BARO
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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That makes sense. I never thought of it that way. I have seen My MAP as high as 37 and backed out ASAP worried I was about to blow a gasket. I Guess that would only be 23psi boost. I feel much better now.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Money-Pit
I don't have AE, but isn't there a way to read boost psi on it? At idle, the boost should be 0 psi or close to it.

I agree with Misky, I think your boost is roughly 16 psi when your map shows 30.

As far as I know, my version of AE does not have a way to monitor Boost
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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One more note: I had that nagging P132b code before I started this trip. I cleared and it did not show up after the 200mi trip.

Do you think the bad MPG is due to me lugging the engine?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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MAP - BARO = Boost

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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
MAP - BARO = Boost

Josh

Don't know why I did not think of it that way. Thanks guys
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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One more note: I had that nagging P132b code before I started this trip. I cleared and it did not show up after the 200mi trip.

Do you think the bad MPG is due to me lugging the engine?
Any Ideals?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 06:23 PM
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Usually sticking vanes with P132b codes... Although I think the early engine was notorious for throwing that code.

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Read this:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...132b-code.html

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