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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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89 460 auto shift problem

I got a 89 f250 460 auto 4spd. It shifts fine 1st to 3rd, but wont go into 4th(overdrive). Fluid is in range on stick and not burnt. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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Assuming you have an E4OD transmission in your truck, it is 100% electronic controlled. The best advice is to check for codes by running the Key On Engine Off (KOEO) and Continuous Memory (CM) display. This can be done using a paper clip or a code reader.

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In 1989 the truck could have a 3-speed C6. Is there an OD button on the dash or on the end of the shifter?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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Ok I ran the KOEO test and got 1 1 1 1, 3 3 3 3. No OD buttons. I did notice it has trans fluid in the vac hose on the module on the back of trans. Im sure that's bad, but it wouldn't affect the shifting would it? I ran the vin and it said 4spd trans. Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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Ok I ran the KOEO test and got 1 1 1 1, 3 3 3 3. No OD buttons. I did notice it has trans fluid in the vac hose on the module on the back of trans. Im sure that's bad, but it wouldn't affect the shifting would it? I ran the vin and it said 4spd trans. Thanks.
system pass KOEO = 11, then a continuous memory code 33 = egr not closing properly. (make it idle/run like crap, varying by how far its stuck open)

Far as trans, no OD button + vac modulator = C6

Are you sure its 4 speed, that doesn't jive with what you're describing.

Oh and yes it sucking trans fluid up the modulator vac line, not a good thing replace the modulator its shot. Does the motor smoke, might notice it when sucking up enough of the trans fluid.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 11:35 PM
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The PO said it said it sat for a while. It smoked at first few start ups, now it don't smoke. Changing module tomorrow. Like I said by the vin description should be 4spd. What are the difference (shapes, markings) to tell a C6 from A4OD? It does have a wire harness from the shift position sensor. Its been a while for me on the computer controlled stuff. Help is always welcome. Thanks..
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 08:18 AM
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17 pan bolts= C6
20 pan bolts= E4OD
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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Ok C6 it is, 17 bolts. Changed module NAPA #1-4657.
So is there any not expensive options for OD, or do I have to deal with running 2800rpm at 60mph..
Thanks for the help.

VIN# 1FTHX25G2KKA04509
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</td><td class="vtitle">Vehicle Accidents/Service</td><td>Get Vehicle History Report NOW</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Year</td><td>1989</td><td class="vtitle">Engine Type</td><td>7.5L V8 VIH 16V</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Make</td><td itemprop="manufacturer">Ford</td><td class="vtitle">Driveline</td><td>RWD</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Model</td><td itemprop="model">F-250</td><td class="vtitle">Ground Clearance</td><td>No data in.</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Trim Level</td><td itemprop="brand">HD SuperCab 2WD</td><td class="vtitle">Front Brake Type</td><td>Disc</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Manufactured In</td><td>UNITED STATES</td><td class="vtitle">Rear Brake Type</td><td>Drum</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Body Style</td><td>EXTENDED CAB PICKUP 2-DR</td><td class="vtitle">Anti-Brake System</td><td>Non-ABS</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Transmission</td><td>4-Speed Automatic Overdrive


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Your only options are basically a 5 speed swap, or an external overdrive unit. An E4OD swap is doable, but you'd need the driveshafts, computer and complete electrical harness of an '89-'92 truck.
 
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Your only options are basically a 5 speed swap, or an external overdrive unit. An E4OD swap is doable, but you'd need the driveshafts, computer and complete electrical harness of an '89-'92 truck.
Could just use one of these for transmission control:
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Thanks guys. I got to do something with it. Hate seeing the rpms so high, nothing like watching the rmps go up and the fuel gauge go down..
 
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