Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

89 460 auto shift problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 11:38 AM
  #1  
72f250CS's Avatar
72f250CS
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: Palmyra
89 460 auto shift problem

I got a 89 f250 460 auto 4spd. It shifts fine 1st to 3rd, but wont go into 4th(overdrive). Fluid is in range on stick and not burnt. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 03:26 PM
  #2  
rla2005's Avatar
rla2005
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 20,789
Likes: 1,753
From: Kentucky
Assuming you have an E4OD transmission in your truck, it is 100% electronic controlled. The best advice is to check for codes by running the Key On Engine Off (KOEO) and Continuous Memory (CM) display. This can be done using a paper clip or a code reader.

For reference:
Fuel Injection Technical Library » How To Run a Self-Test

In 1989 the truck could have a 3-speed C6. Is there an OD button on the dash or on the end of the shifter?
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 05:34 PM
  #3  
72f250CS's Avatar
72f250CS
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: Palmyra
Ok I ran the KOEO test and got 1 1 1 1, 3 3 3 3. No OD buttons. I did notice it has trans fluid in the vac hose on the module on the back of trans. Im sure that's bad, but it wouldn't affect the shifting would it? I ran the vin and it said 4spd trans. Thanks.
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 06:35 PM
  #4  
danr1's Avatar
danr1
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,670
Likes: 13
From: Sand Lake, MI
Originally Posted by 72f250CS
Ok I ran the KOEO test and got 1 1 1 1, 3 3 3 3. No OD buttons. I did notice it has trans fluid in the vac hose on the module on the back of trans. Im sure that's bad, but it wouldn't affect the shifting would it? I ran the vin and it said 4spd trans. Thanks.
system pass KOEO = 11, then a continuous memory code 33 = egr not closing properly. (make it idle/run like crap, varying by how far its stuck open)

Far as trans, no OD button + vac modulator = C6

Are you sure its 4 speed, that doesn't jive with what you're describing.

Oh and yes it sucking trans fluid up the modulator vac line, not a good thing replace the modulator its shot. Does the motor smoke, might notice it when sucking up enough of the trans fluid.
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2013 | 11:35 PM
  #5  
72f250CS's Avatar
72f250CS
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: Palmyra
The PO said it said it sat for a while. It smoked at first few start ups, now it don't smoke. Changing module tomorrow. Like I said by the vin description should be 4spd. What are the difference (shapes, markings) to tell a C6 from A4OD? It does have a wire harness from the shift position sensor. Its been a while for me on the computer controlled stuff. Help is always welcome. Thanks..
 
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2013 | 08:18 AM
  #6  
rla2005's Avatar
rla2005
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 20,789
Likes: 1,753
From: Kentucky
17 pan bolts= C6
20 pan bolts= E4OD
 
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:01 AM
  #7  
72f250CS's Avatar
72f250CS
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: Palmyra
Ok C6 it is, 17 bolts. Changed module NAPA #1-4657.
So is there any not expensive options for OD, or do I have to deal with running 2800rpm at 60mph..
Thanks for the help.

VIN# 1FTHX25G2KKA04509
<table width="93%" class="cardata" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"><tbody><tr><td class="vtitle">VIN</td><td>1FTHX25G2KKA04509
<!--Vehicle History--> <!--Get Vehicle History Now --> <!--Get a CARFAX History Report -->

</td><td class="vtitle">Vehicle Accidents/Service</td><td>Get Vehicle History Report NOW</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Year</td><td>1989</td><td class="vtitle">Engine Type</td><td>7.5L V8 VIH 16V</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Make</td><td itemprop="manufacturer">Ford</td><td class="vtitle">Driveline</td><td>RWD</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Model</td><td itemprop="model">F-250</td><td class="vtitle">Ground Clearance</td><td>No data in.</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Trim Level</td><td itemprop="brand">HD SuperCab 2WD</td><td class="vtitle">Front Brake Type</td><td>Disc</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Manufactured In</td><td>UNITED STATES</td><td class="vtitle">Rear Brake Type</td><td>Drum</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Body Style</td><td>EXTENDED CAB PICKUP 2-DR</td><td class="vtitle">Anti-Brake System</td><td>Non-ABS</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Transmission</td><td>4-Speed Automatic Overdrive


</td><td class="vtitle">Standard Seating</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">MPG Hwy</td><td>No data miles/gallon</td><td class="vtitle">Optional Seating</td><td>4</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">MPG City</td><td>No data miles/gallon</td><td class="vtitle">Tires</td><td>LT235/85R16</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">Dealer Invoice</td><td>No data USD</td><td class="vtitle">Wheelbase</td><td>155.00 in.</td></tr><tr><td class="vtitle">MSRP</td><td>$15,162 USD</td><td class="vtitle">Curb Weight</td><td>4742 lbs</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2013 | 12:42 PM
  #8  
Lead Head's Avatar
Lead Head
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,868
Likes: 9
From: Rhode Island
Your only options are basically a 5 speed swap, or an external overdrive unit. An E4OD swap is doable, but you'd need the driveshafts, computer and complete electrical harness of an '89-'92 truck.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:34 PM
  #9  
HydroDog's Avatar
HydroDog
Tuned
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 338
Likes: 101
From: Salkum
Originally Posted by Lead Head
Your only options are basically a 5 speed swap, or an external overdrive unit. An E4OD swap is doable, but you'd need the driveshafts, computer and complete electrical harness of an '89-'92 truck.
Could just use one of these for transmission control:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...55123115,d.b2I
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2013 | 09:44 PM
  #10  
72f250CS's Avatar
72f250CS
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: Palmyra
Thanks guys. I got to do something with it. Hate seeing the rpms so high, nothing like watching the rmps go up and the fuel gauge go down..
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
70torino429
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
1
Aug 17, 2011 12:39 AM
bomberboat
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
2
Oct 27, 2008 01:45 PM
qman
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Oct 10, 2004 09:57 AM
Taynton1
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
4
Jul 28, 2003 06:32 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:26 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE