TRANSMISSION PROBLEM
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TRANSMISSION PROBLEM
Ok my PowerStroke friends, I have a 150 question...an yes I know this ain't the right forum. But I posted the following on the F-150 forum yesterday...with 102 views and 0 responses. So here I am...asking my 6.0 buds about my sons gas-burner.
"Son has a '04 F-150 (and is 3 hrs away @ college). Early in the week, he said that it would suddenly act like it came out of drive. He would shift into neutral and then back in to drive. Now, it won't go forward at all but it will go in reverse. He checked the fluid level (warm engine) and said it was fine. Going to check it out and bring it home if necessary. Any ideas why it will go in reverse but not go forward?"
"Son has a '04 F-150 (and is 3 hrs away @ college). Early in the week, he said that it would suddenly act like it came out of drive. He would shift into neutral and then back in to drive. Now, it won't go forward at all but it will go in reverse. He checked the fluid level (warm engine) and said it was fine. Going to check it out and bring it home if necessary. Any ideas why it will go in reverse but not go forward?"
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Hey no worries iv asked questions about my Lawn mower LOL
Theres just a Ton of mechanicaly inclined Folks here for Shure Best Forum around Hands down IMO!!!!
Now Im not 100% shure but most tranny fluid should be checked with trans warmed up Running in Park when the fluid should be checked so ids this how he did it???
Any way to see the trans Range sensor??
Maybe a Shift Silinoid??
Probably take a Ford enhanced scanner to see any Trans DTC I would think
MARK K. has been on here tonight maybe he will see it and have some Ideas
Theres just a Ton of mechanicaly inclined Folks here for Shure Best Forum around Hands down IMO!!!!
Now Im not 100% shure but most tranny fluid should be checked with trans warmed up Running in Park when the fluid should be checked so ids this how he did it???
Any way to see the trans Range sensor??
Maybe a Shift Silinoid??
Probably take a Ford enhanced scanner to see any Trans DTC I would think
MARK K. has been on here tonight maybe he will see it and have some Ideas
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The TRS can't prevent it from moving. It can keep it from shifting out of first gear.
I'm not an expert on that trans, but if it doesn't move at all then I think something mechanical has broke inside the trans.
I'm not an expert on that trans, but if it doesn't move at all then I think something mechanical has broke inside the trans.
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A 2004 F-150 will have a 4R75 transmission in it. By the description of the symptom, it sounds like the forward clutch (and/or the hydraulic circuit that provides pressure to it) has failed, since it is the only component that applies when 'D' is selected. You might want to try '2' or '1' to see if there's any forward movement in either of those two selections. How the truck behaves will better narrow down the cause of failure. Either way, it sounds as though transmission removal is inevitable to repair.
Understand that I am no transmission expert. I am just another idiot Ford dealer technician, but I hope it helps either way.
Understand that I am no transmission expert. I am just another idiot Ford dealer technician, but I hope it helps either way.
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Come on Mike you deserve More Credit then that
Your really good at this Mechanical stuff
In fact ALL YOU GUYS (YOU And Vinced,Mattey) that Work or Have Worked (MARK K, Cheezit) Have been HUGE HELP to us Shade tree guys
I really appreciate all of you guys Imput
This Website would NOT be where its at Today with out you PRO's
I know I can speak for ALL of US when I say THANK YOU for your time, help and knowledge
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Come on Mike you deserve More Credit then that
Your really good at this Mechanical stuff
In fact ALL YOU GUYS (YOU And Vinced,Mattey) that Work or Have Worked (MARK K, Cheezit) Have been HUGE HELP to us Shade tree guys
I really appreciate all of you guys Imput
This Website would NOT be where its at Today with out you PRO's
I know I can speak for ALL of US when I say THANK YOU for your time, help and knowledge
Your really good at this Mechanical stuff
In fact ALL YOU GUYS (YOU And Vinced,Mattey) that Work or Have Worked (MARK K, Cheezit) Have been HUGE HELP to us Shade tree guys
I really appreciate all of you guys Imput
This Website would NOT be where its at Today with out you PRO's
I know I can speak for ALL of US when I say THANK YOU for your time, help and knowledge
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Sorry to be so long responding, but I went to Oxford this morning to get his truck and bring it home.
To clarify, it won't go forward at all...in none of the forward gears, but it will go in reverse. When I put it in forward and pressed the gas pedal, it just revved up like it was in neutral. I shifted it into 2nd and then 1st with no change. Tried rocking the truck back and forth and again no luck. Got a message on the dash saying "Transmission Failure" and "Engine in Failsafe Mode". Engine is running good...checked the transmission fluid level and it is between the min/max marks. So I backed her up on the trailer and strapped her down and headed south. More to come when I find out...hopefully tomorrow.
To clarify, it won't go forward at all...in none of the forward gears, but it will go in reverse. When I put it in forward and pressed the gas pedal, it just revved up like it was in neutral. I shifted it into 2nd and then 1st with no change. Tried rocking the truck back and forth and again no luck. Got a message on the dash saying "Transmission Failure" and "Engine in Failsafe Mode". Engine is running good...checked the transmission fluid level and it is between the min/max marks. So I backed her up on the trailer and strapped her down and headed south. More to come when I find out...hopefully tomorrow.
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Sorry to be so long responding, but I went to Oxford this morning to get his truck and bring it home.
To clarify, it won't go forward at all...in none of the forward gears, but it will go in reverse. When I put it in forward and pressed the gas pedal, it just revved up like it was in neutral. I shifted it into 2nd and then 1st with no change. Tried rocking the truck back and forth and again no luck. Got a message on the dash saying "Transmission Failure" and "Engine in Failsafe Mode". Engine is running good...checked the transmission fluid level and it is between the min/max marks. So I backed her up on the trailer and strapped her down and headed south. More to come when I find out...hopefully tomorrow.
To clarify, it won't go forward at all...in none of the forward gears, but it will go in reverse. When I put it in forward and pressed the gas pedal, it just revved up like it was in neutral. I shifted it into 2nd and then 1st with no change. Tried rocking the truck back and forth and again no luck. Got a message on the dash saying "Transmission Failure" and "Engine in Failsafe Mode". Engine is running good...checked the transmission fluid level and it is between the min/max marks. So I backed her up on the trailer and strapped her down and headed south. More to come when I find out...hopefully tomorrow.
for the transmission, how about the shift plates/ linkage could be missed up in order.. clutch flywheel etc... thats a pretty good place to start. i have had that issue with a stick.... never auto so im not 100% sure. let us know!
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I stand by my statement that there's an issue with the forward clutch (and/or its hydraulic circuit), by virtue of the fact that it won't move in any of the forward selector positions.
I also stand by my statement that repair will require transmission removal and either disassembly, or replacement.
I also stand by my statement that repair will require transmission removal and either disassembly, or replacement.
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And, having the front of the truck on the back of the trailer made for a nerve-racking drive home. I would've much rather had the front-end weight of the truck forward of the axles...it wouldn't have been such a 'bouncey' ride home. But I didn't have a winch or the muscle to get it on there facing forward, so I had to back it on. Looking at the bright side...on the trip home I stayed wide awake and didn't get sleepy at all
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Sort of...I backed it onto the trailer and pulled it home facing backwards, so does that count?
And, having the front of the truck on the back of the trailer made for a nerve-racking drive home. I would've much rather had the front-end weight of the truck forward of the axles...it wouldn't have been such a 'bouncey' ride home. But I didn't have a winch or the muscle to get it on there facing forward, so I had to back it on. Looking at the bright side...on the trip home I stayed wide awake and didn't get sleepy at all
And, having the front of the truck on the back of the trailer made for a nerve-racking drive home. I would've much rather had the front-end weight of the truck forward of the axles...it wouldn't have been such a 'bouncey' ride home. But I didn't have a winch or the muscle to get it on there facing forward, so I had to back it on. Looking at the bright side...on the trip home I stayed wide awake and didn't get sleepy at all
i hauled a d 70 one time about 2 miles for my job, and had to do something similar
had my rear end going up and down down the gravel road.
any new news? have it at the house or shop?
is this something you plan on taking on yourself?
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No, no, no...I wouldn't even think about doing transmission work. The thought of it scares the bejebes outta me! I dropped it off at a friend of mine's shop last night, so I hope to hear something from him later today.
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Sort of...I backed it onto the trailer and pulled it home facing backwards, so does that count?
And, having the front of the truck on the back of the trailer made for a nerve-racking drive home. I would've much rather had the front-end weight of the truck forward of the axles...it wouldn't have been such a 'bouncey' ride home. But I didn't have a winch or the muscle to get it on there facing forward, so I had to back it on. Looking at the bright side...on the trip home I stayed wide awake and didn't get sleepy at all
And, having the front of the truck on the back of the trailer made for a nerve-racking drive home. I would've much rather had the front-end weight of the truck forward of the axles...it wouldn't have been such a 'bouncey' ride home. But I didn't have a winch or the muscle to get it on there facing forward, so I had to back it on. Looking at the bright side...on the trip home I stayed wide awake and didn't get sleepy at all
Oh yeah, and good luck with a speedy and cheap recovery!