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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 09:16 AM
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Help! Im stuck!

1995 psd e4od.

Getting a code p1728 with blinking OD light and no converter lockup.

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Fresh fluid change about 3k miles ago, new TC with 5k on it. Truck has a TS tuner on it.

Towing 8k, slowed for a traffic light. Trans temp 175, no issues. Started moving, 2- shift, 3-shift, 4-shift, OD light, no lockup. In that order. Temp climbed to 225 in under 5 minutes. Front seal in very slightly leaking now. I assume from the ecu cranking the line pressure up for limp mode.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Also, all tail lights are good. Fluid level is good, connections are good.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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It could the TC solenoid in the pan, or the TC valve body in the pan, or the TC itself.

Good luck.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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First thing I would try (since it's free and easy) would be to put the PCM back into a stock program and pull the chip. I take it you have a TS 6 Position chip and not a "programmer", correct?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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It's a chip.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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It's the brake lights that affect the shifting, not the taillights. But as said above, "revert to stock" is always the first diagnostic step.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Yeah, no problems with any lights. I think I have it figured out though. Ford dealer diagnostic says pump pressure is low. Sufficient pump pressure is required for lockup. My pump just started leaking and I've been noticing a prolonged lockup action of the converter lately. I'm putting my money on the pump being bad.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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Here's exactly what the dealer said. "P1725 - Excessive slippage, transmission pump exhibits low pressure conditions. Torque converter attempts to lock, but does not. Suggest replace torque converter, transmission pump and TCC solenoid".

I just bought a Snap-on MT-2500 ($128 on ebay) with everything I need to troubleshoot it. I'm going to check some of the pins in the solenoid body first, make sure the wiring is good. I personally am leaning towards a bad pump as it just started leaking when this occurred.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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The front pump seal can leak when the transmission overheats and the pump can still be okay. I would look carefully at the wiring and the solenoid before you assume the pump is shot.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 02:52 PM
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If it includes the needed cables and the K2a chip, you stole that MT2500 for $128.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 01:47 AM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Snap-on-MT2500-scanner-/141092178021?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=mwbr%252FtZM6do6Uo4E7VW2UYXYfwc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
It came with the following;

- OBD 2 connector with 3 keys included K2A, K9 AND K13
- Ford OBD 1
- GM OBD 1
- FRD-4
Primary and Troubleshooter Domestic thru 2001 cartridges
Users Manual
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DIYMechanic
The front pump seal can leak when the transmission overheats and the pump can still be okay. I would look carefully at the wiring and the solenoid before you assume the pump is shot.
I figured that but the trans temp never went over 225. From what I can tell, the leak is coming from the pump body.

Honestly, the trans operates normally... It shifts when it should and it seems faster to react when sifted into reverse since the incident. The only thing it is not doing is locking the torque converter. This non-locking issue was "all-of-the-sudden" too. The dealer is telling me to replace the pump, solenoid body and torque converter but I think they just tell everyone that just to cover their butts. I personally think the pump is to blame as the converter attempts to lock but must be receiving inadequate pump pressure.

I guess I'll be tearing into it soon after some thorough troubleshooting.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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I drove the truck yesterday and the OD light stopped blinking. The converter is still not locking up and the light isn't burned out. I think I may have an electrical issue.
 
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Like a solenoid? Is it still leaking fluid?
 
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DIYMechanic
Like a solenoid? Is it still leaking fluid?
It's barely leaking fluid now. I'm leaning towards a solenoid now. Just waiting for the scanner to arrive.
 
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