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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Harrier
I recognize that engine. That is my 239 Y-Block truck engine. I will look the numbers up on it. But Bill probably has all the answers already.

Edit: That pulley is EBV 6312-A and it is Double Sheave 6 5/8" overall length.
OP said Y block came from a 1958 Fairlane / EBV-6312-A = 1954/55 truck 239/256.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
OP said Y block came from a 1958 Fairlane / EBV-6312-A = 1954/55 truck 239/256.
Yeah, I was referencing the pulley that was in the picture that he said he is looking for.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Harrier
I recognize that engine. That is my 239 Y-Block truck engine. I will look the numbers up on it. But Bill probably has all the answers already.

Edit: That pulley is EBV 6312-A and it is Double Sheave 6 5/8" overall length.

Yeah, I remember reading your Y-Block restoration thread and seeing that pulley and thinking, "That's what I need!"

Better keep a close eye on it...

I think if the balancer was 1" longer it would be fine. Now just to find one. I went to look at a 1954 Ford Customline tonight to see if its 239 Y-Block balancer would work, no dice. Its not even a balancer, just a pulley. I did get a coil bracket off of it, and a couple of other needed bolts for my engine.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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I checked, the one I have is the shorter single groove type. Sorry, i can't help.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Forest_54_Ford
I went to look at a 1954 Ford Customline tonight to see if its 239 Y-Block balancer would work, no dice.

Its not even a balancer, just a pulley.
No such thing, as you can see in the car parts catalog pic.
1954 239 OHV installed in cars: There are two different 6312 balancers, as pic shows, balancer with P/S (EBY-6312-B 4.74" long) is different than without (EBU-6312-A 2.84" long).

6A312 is the accessory outer pulley that bolts to the balancer to add P/S. Balancers are composed of 3 parts.

At the factory, a rubber gasket is placed between the outer pulley and inner damper, then the 3 parts are pressed together forming a one piece assembly.

Over time, the gasket age cracks/shrinks, causing the outer pulley to "walk away" from the inner damper.

If not noticed, the outer pulley will separate from the damper, taking associated parts along with it. May end up in your radiator core. Not Pleasant!

Lower pic: 1954 Ford car 239 OHV
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
6312 is the balancer, 6A312 is the accessory outer pulley that bolts the balancer to add P/S.

Lower pic: 1954 Ford car 239 OHV
I'll take a picture of what I removed, it looks nothing like that.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Forest_54_Ford
I'll take a picture of what I removed, it looks nothing like that.
There's no other parts catalog pic for 1954 Ford Y block cars (it's the lower pic, upper pic is flathead).

The car is a 1954, what year is the engine?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
There's no other parts catalog pic for 1954 Ford Y block cars. The car is a 1954, what year is the engine?
It's supposed to be original. I know it's a 2bbl 239 Y. Let me go take a picture and post it.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Forest_54_Ford
I'll take a picture of what I removed, it looks nothing like that.
Looks quite similar to the non P/S balancer pictured in post 20.

Doesn't look like the single sheave balancer pictured below, as its shaft is longer and shouldered.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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Would this work:
 
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 06:39 AM
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Two Sheeve puuley

If you add power steering, air con or ? You're going to need that two sheave pulley, and they're really hard to find! If you need a single one I have a good one off a spare motor your welcome to for shipping costs. Hold on to that two sheave tho, you may regret not having it somewhere down the line!
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ke6jcf
If you add power steering, air con or ? You're going to need that two sheave pulley, and they're really hard to find! If you need a single one I have a good one off a spare motor your welcome to for shipping costs. Hold on to that two sheave tho, you may regret not having it somewhere down the line!
-Doug
I won't be doing that, just need water pump and an electrical source
 
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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I just ran into a similar situation. I'm installing an IFS mustang II kit with rack and pinion steering. We mocked up the crossmember and motor mounts with an engine block so we would have the appropriate clearance for the oil pan and the steering rack. Everything was welded into place and the engine was installed. When we went to bolt the rack into place the harmonic balancer was in the way of the rack. I'm using a sbc which came out of a '90 C2500 pick up and they used an 8" diameter harmonic balancer. I ended up buying a 6.750" diameter replacement that was used in '90 on vans, larger cars, etc. but one of my concerns was whether the smaller damper will make any difference as far as engine vibration are concerned. I'm wondering if changing yours will pose any similar problems with crankshaft balancing.

Wally
 
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