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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Question Dually Front Spacers Info Request

How wide are the front spacers on a dually?

Can they be used for front and rear axles?

I'd like my track width to be about 1-2" wider...seems the OEM steel spacers would be an ideal way to go in terms of strength and cost.

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turns out...the Dually spacers wouldn't be a good choice. unless you wanted about 4" of extra track width





I had no idea the Dually trucks had that monstrosity installed. makes sense now that I'm thinking about it though.
 
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Switch to 05+ wheels, and you got your self a nice 2" increase in track width.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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there is that...but then I'd have to buy new rims and tires. Even running 17" rubber it's still ridiculously expensive. I can get all new rubber for about $1k with my 16" rims

although...the Harley 20's I love so much...with some 35" rubber

wonder if I can get 2 pairs of those spacers for a decent price?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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I wonder how the engineers of FTE feel about running those spacers on all 4 corners.
 
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???

They are factory designed, they are factory installed on PSD equipped trucks with all that extra weight up front, they are factory installed on trucks that are rated to tow 20K and more

I'd feel fairly safe putting them on all 4 corners honestly. They bolt to the from hub, and then you use normal lugnuts for the rim. I'm pretty sure you'd have to use lugnuts for the rear axle though.

I'm curious enough to consider them though
 
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I know, but some people here are not as confident.
 
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some things are just common sense. but when Fords pays Engineers to design this stuff, and then spends millions to build it...well I tend to trust it.

besides, those spacers have been around since at least 1999 right? and I'm sure they were run on the older rigs as well. Seems to me that in the last 15 yrs we'd have heard a lot more about these spacers if they weren't up to snuff
 
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Its not me you have to convince haha
 
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yes, but the dually rims have the curve to them so the tires are actually back under the brake caliper so the tires don't have a huge scrub pattern when you turn, with that much offset and normal rims I am sure it would be pretty much impossible to turn the wheels when stopped, it definitely would not help your bearings and ball joints to live a long and happy life either. Just an extra 2 inches of rim offset made a huge difference in how long my unit bearings in the front of my truck lasted.. it was eating them every 12-24K miles, I got new rims and they have lasted over 50K and counting..
 
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yeah, if I were to run those with my 99-04 style rims they would stick out ridiculously. totally agree.

but with 05+ style rims, the offset change wouldn't be that bad. my old 2006 F-250 had rims/tires that stuck out 2.5" from the fender due to rim width and rubber width. Think the rims were 18x10. If I were to run only OEM 05+ rims, then the tire would stick out about 2" due to my narrower axle width. Which is what I'm after since I plan on running pocket flares as well

plus, I drive about 3k a year. sometimes the odd year gets 4k. I know these would be a bearing killer...but it's a calculated wear vs. use to me. I know that isn't an option for most people.
 
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Originally Posted by Tylus
some things are just common sense. but when Fords pays Engineers to design this stuff, and then spends millions to build it...well I tend to trust it.

besides, those spacers have been around since at least 1999 right? and I'm sure they were run on the older rigs as well. Seems to me that in the last 15 yrs we'd have heard a lot more about these spacers if they weren't up to snuff
Perhaps your common sense could use some rehab.

Look at the wheels on a dually truck; you'll notice the offset isn't anywhere close to the offset of SRW trucks like yours. This applies drastically different forces to the wheel end during everyday operation. The tires on dually's are still directly over the calipers, which means that the stress applied to the spacer puts the load within design tolerances of the wheel bearings. For an idea of how this would work, imagine inverting a dually wheel and installing it on your truck. The tire patch would be several inches outside of where it should be, and the angular force on the wheel bearing would be HUGE.

It's your truck of course, but factory parts are engineered for factory applications, which this certainly would not be.
 
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