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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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SCOTCH LOCKS!!!

I have been finding scotch locks all over this truck since I bought it. I'm not 100% against them- I think in certain applications they work quite nicely- but not when you're cutting into wires under the bed!!!

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I wish I would've taken more pictures of my Centurion when I first started making it road worthy. Crimp on butt connectors and Scotch Locks everywhere they had to extend a harness. Inside the cab, under the truck, in the frame rails... Took the better part of two weekends to re-do those connections with solder and heat shrink.

As far as Scotch Locks having some sort of use, I agree. I used them when I installed my trans temp gauge, when I had to tap into constant power, key on power (both at the radio harness), and parking lights. I used them because they were the easiest solution, and being inside the cab and behind the dash, there's little chance of them failing. I did, however, wrap them with electrical tape, so they don't open up.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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I very much dislike Scotch Locks as well. Had some issues with them 19 years ago, and haven't used them since.

Get some wire strippers like these:

And you shouldn't need to use Scotch Locks at all. These will open up a stripped spot to tap into a wire. Probably need the liquid electrical tape in an out-of-the-cab application, but inside the cab electrical tape should be fine.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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No need for special tools

I wouldn't worry about getting a special tool unless I had to tap into lines a lot. I do the same thing with normal wire strippers. Just make a cut in the casing and push it back a little. I'm afraid I still follow my practice of joining, flux, soldering, and heat shrinking. Doesn't matter the location. The only time I use wire nuts is for non stranded wire. Maybe you can get away with easier methods, but I always know that I can depend on a soldered connection.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 06:33 AM
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They make a shrink connector with the solder built in it. I don't know if they are new, or if I just hadn't seen them before.

I was pretty skeptical when I first saw them, but they actually work pretty well. Just slide one over one wire, make your connection, slide the little solder ring to the middle of your connection and heat with a heat gun.

The heat shrink tube is clear and heavy duty, it shrinks first then a few seconds later the solder melts into the connection. Quick and easy.

You do need a heat gun, and the connectors were kind of expensive. Good for hard to reach areas though.

Napa has them.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninra
I wouldn't worry about getting a special tool unless I had to tap into lines a lot. I do the same thing with normal wire strippers. Just make a cut in the casing and push it back a little. I'm afraid I still follow my practice of joining, flux, soldering, and heat shrinking. Doesn't matter the location. The only time I use wire nuts is for non stranded wire. Maybe you can get away with easier methods, but I always know that I can depend on a soldered connection.

What kind of solder are you using that requires flux? I have always used rosin core solder on wiring and electronics.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bdelmar2
They make a shrink connector with the solder built in it. I don't know if they are new, or if I just hadn't seen them before.

I was pretty skeptical when I first saw them, but they actually work pretty well. Just slide one over one wire, make your connection, slide the little solder ring to the middle of your connection and heat with a heat gun.

The heat shrink tube is clear and heavy duty, it shrinks first then a few seconds later the solder melts into the connection. Quick and easy.

You do need a heat gun, and the connectors were kind of expensive. Good for hard to reach areas though.

Napa has them.
They've been around for 14 years or more, probably more. The ones I used have heat-sealing compound at the ends; it seals the connection well enough to meet aviation requirements. At least, the ones I used did. I don't know about the ones at Napa.
 

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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 11:22 AM
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Electronic silver solder

I use electronic grade solder. Specifically it's designated as silver electronic solder. It has a very low melting point so I don't have to keep the iron on very long and it will completely soak the connection. The main reason I advocate always using flux is because no matter how hard you try, you leave dirt and oil on the wires, flux cleans the wires completely and allows the solder to completely adhere to the wires. For single strand wires, I will use the standard twist, cap, and tape. I'm only pedantic about multi-strand wire. Watch a decent plumber though. Even though they are using rosin core solder they will still flux the ends before they connect copper piping.
The single solution connections that everyone has been talking about sound interesting. I wouldn't use butt connectors though, I would still twist and flux the connection though. Any type of connection will benefit from the fewest connections possible. Adding in connections adds line resistance, there just no way around that. Needless to say, my audio systems look very different from most.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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My solder for 20 gauge and smaller wire.

 
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