Notices
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Slick Sixties Ford Truck

Clutch Chatter

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 2, 2013 | 03:08 PM
  #1  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
Clutch Chatter

63 F100, new to me
Previous owner replaced the clutch and throwout bearing and had flywheel resurfaced. No change. Nothing loose in the springs front and rear, nor the motor mounts. Appears dry. I want to save taking the trans out again for last resort after I have eliminated other possibilities. I tuned it up, which I think will help but not solve. I did notice that the front cab mounts are just about gone. I don't feel the cab moving, but should I be suspecting that? What would be the next things you would check?
 
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2013 | 03:26 PM
  #2  
schoo's Avatar
schoo
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,390
Likes: 44
From: placer county usa?
one piece drive shaft?
or two piece?
any binding at diff or noise
I had this in my 89 f250 it just went away one day must have gotten use to my foot
 
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2013 | 03:29 PM
  #3  
charliemccraney's Avatar
charliemccraney
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,389
Likes: 58
I would almost put money on your cab mounts being the problem. If they are all rusted then the cab moves a lot and since the clutch linkage is mounted to the cab, any movement in the cab affects the geometry of the linkage, and the force applied to release the clutch so the cab vibrates and you get chatter.
I had the same problem on mine. After I replaced the cab mount, it went away.
 
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2013 | 06:26 PM
  #4  
rogue40's Avatar
rogue40
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,144
Likes: 0
From: Sedro-Woolley, WA
I have never had clutch chatter without the pilot bushing being wallowed out
 
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:05 PM
  #5  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
I think it will either end up the pilot or the cab being the culpret. Its funny that the floor isn't bad, but the supports where the mounts are is gone right at the mounts. Do they make replacements for that area?
 
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:25 PM
  #6  
tinman52's Avatar
tinman52
Welder User
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,269
Likes: 50
From: northwest MT
Club FTE Silver Member

Also check the rubber motor/trans mounts. If rotten or cracked they can let the engine/trans move around alot.
 
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:59 PM
  #7  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
The motor mounts have some cracking, but they seem to be holding the motor firmly. I could not move anything much from under the vehicle at the output shaft.
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2013 | 04:30 PM
  #8  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
Watched the motor while engaging clutch, and it is not moving. I am considering another possibility: It may not be clutch. At low rpm if I lug it in other gears it bucks as well. Same thing? Maybe not. But maybe engine tune is not helping matters either. Plugs new. Timing done. Dwell checked. Wires and cap probably could use replaced.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Oct 7, 2013 | 05:22 PM
  #9  
schoo's Avatar
schoo
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,390
Likes: 44
From: placer county usa?
Have you ck'ed center support if two piece drive shaft ck diff input shaft for movement/bearing is there any noise when rolling without engine running?
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2013 | 07:01 PM
  #10  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
One piece ds. No slop in u joints.
No noise that I have noticed without running but rolling, but I will check.
 
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 08:21 PM
  #11  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
Here are some picts of the clutch. One segment looks hot. Same on the flywheel. Any thoughts?
The pilot is just a bushing, not a bearing. The bearing was in the box with the old clutch, and I could install it. The pilot doesn't seem loose on the shaft.
 
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 08:24 PM
  #12  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1



 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 04:47 AM
  #13  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
Any advice on this one now with pictures?
 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 09:12 AM
  #14  
rogue40's Avatar
rogue40
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,144
Likes: 0
From: Sedro-Woolley, WA
Try shaking the pilot shaft to see if it moves at all side to side or forward and back.
Also try placing the pilot bushing/bearing on the pilot shaft to check for slop.

Clutch chatter is caused by the friction plate not being in line with the flywheel and pressure plate when the three come together.
The only other possible cause would be a bent pilot shaft.
 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 09:34 AM
  #15  
Wolfracing's Avatar
Wolfracing
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by rogue40
Try shaking the pilot shaft to see if it moves at all side to side or forward and back.
Also try placing the pilot bushing/bearing on the pilot shaft to check for slop.

Clutch chatter is caused by the friction plate not being in line with the flywheel and pressure plate when the three come together.
The only other possible cause would be a bent pilot shaft.
Will check these things. Thank you. More please! I am into using the shotgun approach as long as I have it out. I am thinking about having the flywheel resurfaced to get the ugliness and cracks out/off. Not much I can do with the pressure plate I assume unless I replace it.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:05 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE