AFE INTAKE
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AFE INTAKE
Anybody running this filter?My truck is stock but wanting to buy a re-usable filter that fits in the OEM box.Not ready for big mods yet with alot warranty left.Is this filter worth the $ ?
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6.7L Powerstroke AFE 30-80202 Direct Fit IRF Pro 5R Air Filter
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6.7L Powerstroke AFE 30-80202 Direct Fit IRF Pro 5R Air Filter
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I have a S&B CAI on my truck. Me personally and this is just the way i feel about it, i think just about anything as far as air filters go is better than stock. All the trucks i have had i have not always run a CAI but i at least put a better filter in them. Normally a K&N but i always had gas motors. Also my S&B is a dry filter so no washing required just get a new one and toss the old. I didnt want a filter that needs to be washed and oiled i didnt want any of that left over water or oil to go into my turbo if it didnt get dryed out enough.
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I have a S&B CAI on my truck. Me personally and this is just the way i feel about it, i think just about anything as far as air filters go is better than stock. All the trucks i have had i have not always run a CAI but i at least put a better filter in them. Normally a K&N but i always had gas motors. Also my S&B is a dry filter so no washing required just get a new one and toss the old. I didnt want a filter that needs to be washed and oiled i didnt want any of that left over water or oil to go into my turbo if it didnt get dryed out enough.
Also, the potential "gain" in power is rarely realized.
Given we are talking about turbo diesel trucks built with tight tolerances and the desire to last a long time - getting dust on the turbo blades, and in the engine is something I would really want to avoid and I personally would be looking for options that provide even more filtration than stock.
I think this is some good independent analysis
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I've seen and heard both the AFE Momentum HD and the S&B on the Ford 6.7. Most of my friends run S&B. I haven't determined what the true benefit of an aftermarket intake is, other than that it might be able to handle getting a bit better than the OEM air box which seems to just keep it in until I dry it with a paper towel. So as of now I think I'm pretty happy with the stock setup. If I know for sure that an aftermarket intake WON'T get clogged in a snowstorm I might do it.
People see my truck and ask me what kind of intake I have on it and I say it's just the stock one and they go 'oh' and walk away disappointed and I'm thinking like, "what?" I guess I'm not cool if I don't have one on my truck I guess huh.
People see my truck and ask me what kind of intake I have on it and I say it's just the stock one and they go 'oh' and walk away disappointed and I'm thinking like, "what?" I guess I'm not cool if I don't have one on my truck I guess huh.
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Just some food for thought. Turbo chargers spin anywhere between 160,000 to 220,000 rpm. I think Ford's turbo spins closer to 160,000 rpm due to the relatively heavy compound compressor wheel. At that speed, even a droplet of water can ERODE the turbine. At that speed, fine Arizona dust can actually eat away at the turbine impellers. If the stock filter is good to 500hp as 2ndStroke says it is, then I'd stick with it or any other high quality filter. I Think Donaldson could make a killing if they'd build Powercore filters / intake kits for all of the big 3 diesels. Now that's a filter that has no flow or dirt capturing issues.
pic of water erosion courtesy of Snow Performance webby:
There's plenty of pictures of "Dusted" turbo's as well out there. The ones that ran K&N for some time show some polishing on the turbo fins.
pic of water erosion courtesy of Snow Performance webby:
There's plenty of pictures of "Dusted" turbo's as well out there. The ones that ran K&N for some time show some polishing on the turbo fins.
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I was not looking for the claimed ''power gains''.I was just wanting to know if the bulky stock filter was choking the turbo and I could get more ''clean'' air through an after market filter that can be re-used.
I know the ''seat of the pants'' feeling at take off will be the same with any filter.
Many Thanks for all of the info.
I know the ''seat of the pants'' feeling at take off will be the same with any filter.
Many Thanks for all of the info.
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And it still packs with snow if you run without a winter front. Not completely like the stock one but.......
I used to sell Donaldson Torit dust collectors, yep, they know filtration
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Both the 6.0l and 6.4l used Donaldson filters.
When the engineers from Ford came on here when the 6.7 came out, I remember one of the users here asked the question why they changed from the Donaldson filters, and the response from Ford was that fleets complained about the higher servicing costs of the Fords, one of the things they did to fix it was change to a "standard" filter that was far cheaper to purchase.
If you don't care a great deal about the filter cost, I would think that a Donaldson would be the best option.
When the engineers from Ford came on here when the 6.7 came out, I remember one of the users here asked the question why they changed from the Donaldson filters, and the response from Ford was that fleets complained about the higher servicing costs of the Fords, one of the things they did to fix it was change to a "standard" filter that was far cheaper to purchase.
If you don't care a great deal about the filter cost, I would think that a Donaldson would be the best option.
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I was not looking for the claimed ''power gains''.I was just wanting to know if the bulky stock filter was choking the turbo and I could get more ''clean'' air through an after market filter that can be re-used.
I know the ''seat of the pants'' feeling at take off will be the same with any filter.
Many Thanks for all of the info.
I know the ''seat of the pants'' feeling at take off will be the same with any filter.
Many Thanks for all of the info.
If you went for a redesigned intake (like the S&B one mentioned), I think you would be much more likely to see an increase.
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Both the 6.0l and 6.4l used Donaldson filters.
When the engineers from Ford came on here when the 6.7 came out, I remember one of the users here asked the question why they changed from the Donaldson filters, and the response from Ford was that fleets complained about the higher servicing costs of the Fords, one of the things they did to fix it was change to a "standard" filter that was far cheaper to purchase.
When the engineers from Ford came on here when the 6.7 came out, I remember one of the users here asked the question why they changed from the Donaldson filters, and the response from Ford was that fleets complained about the higher servicing costs of the Fords, one of the things they did to fix it was change to a "standard" filter that was far cheaper to purchase.
It's a wear item though in the end so if it works, it works. Even when I buy "premium" replacement parts or fluids I don't stretch maintenance intervals, but I feel better while it's in there (whether it's actually working better or if it's just a placebo I don't know).
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Yeah, the 6.0 and 6.4 were Donaldson units. After some research, it looks like the Duramax uses a Donaldson unit as well. The thing with the Donaldsons is that they were supposed to go up to 100,000 miles between changes. So even if it cost the same as 4 panel filters, it was worth it. Especially since you didn't even have to change it unless the minder told you too. Those power cores also hold around 2 lbs of dirt before being fully plugged. I think that kind of filtering capacity is just plain awesome .
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