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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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The competition is getting stiff!

Just read that figures for the 6.2L V8 in the 2014 Silverado and Sierra have been released. A very impressive 420 HP and 460 ft-lbs of torque is what this mill will be churning out, and it will tow up to 12,000 lbs.

6.2L V-8 Output Figures Released for 2014 Silverado, Sierra

I have to admit I'm very impressed. Unfortunately they are doing a typical GM move and only putting these monsters in the top trim levels available.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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It is def. getting good. I am ford guy but they are all getting better. I have no doubt ford will come out with something good. But it will be hard form them to match gm on fuel economy with there cylinder deactivation. They have got that mastered.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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No doubt ncl.

Found some information on the Cummins mill they will be putting in the new Titan.

Cummins Engines

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Originally Posted by Cummins
With a torque rating in the mid-500s (lb-ft) and more than 300 horsepower
Now THAT's impressive...it should outperform a stock 6.0L Powerstroke. Of course the real question is whether or not the chassis will be able to match the capability of the engine. And if it does then it will be a bona fide 3/4 ton truck, probably with the ride and handling to match. We will see, but I'm very interested in how this turns out.

When I bought my F150 it was the best tool for the job; but depending on what the future brings it may not be next time. We'll see.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 10:49 PM
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Too bad on the looks of the Chevy though, they really blew that. But in hindsight I thought the, then new '09 F-150 looked feminized when it first came out, loved the blocky traditional truck look of the '04-'08. I hated the upside down looking taillights and the grill and headlights on the '09.

Then I bought my '11 XLT in the fall of 2010.

Today I feel like the 2011+ FX-4 (appearance pkg) , KR, Limited & Platinum's are some of the most handsome trucks ever made (second to the '72 C20) that is.

Not going to lie though, a guy at my kids daycare just purchased a brand new 2014 Ram 1500, it's all blacked out with the led and projector lights etc.. It is a sexy looking truck but I won't let him know that.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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For me the Dodge is a good looking truck, but the big deal for me is the ram box.

If I was to lay down my money I would buy a F150. GM is to easy to lower, and Dodge has kits now. So for me its a challenge that I would like to take up, but I think it has a awesome presence with the black grille.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 02:11 AM
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GM is to easy to lower, and Dodge has kits now.
Lower? That's not something you hear every day.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 06:02 AM
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In the newest edition of Truck Trend, they report that the Ram"s diesel will be a $2800 premium over the base V-6 and $1500 over the Hemi 5.7L. They also report that it will boast a 9200 lb tow rating.

That's right in line with my ecoboost with 3.31's except the diesel will reported achieve an EPA estimate of 18/25.

I can now kind of see why Ford is hesitant to add the diesel to the very robust F-150 engine line-up.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 06:34 AM
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Be interested to see what rpm's those new numbers come in at.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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I expect gm power numbers to be in the lower rpm range since they are not overhead cam engines. We will see though.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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OHC means nothing in this regard. The 2v modular engines are OHC and they make 90% of peak torque below 2000 RPMs.

The GM 6.2 is extremely impressive on paper with it's whopping 11.5:1 compression ratio. When this was released I expected it to be a monster. But the rated torque is substantially higher than HP, which means that it isn't going to have a screaming top end. Its going to be a real stump puller, and what the Ford 6.2 should have been from the start.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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I stand corrected sir. Isn't it typical though that ohc engines are capable of higher rpms than traditional ohv engines such as gm. I do like the simplicity of a good ol ohv engine.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ncl
I stand corrected sir. Isn't it typical though that ohc engines are capable of higher rpms than traditional ohv engines such as gm. I do like the simplicity of a good ol ohv engine.
That certainly is one of the benefits, as the direct actuation of the valves makes higher RPMs possible. But there are other factors as well. The Cummins ISX heavy truck engine redlines at 2,100 RPMs and is a DOHC design.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Very interesting
 
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Like the previous 6.2, I bet this one still has piston slap over 4,500 RPMs, exactly where it makes its power. 10.5:1 compression? Damn! Hope they don't expect anyone in a hot climate to tow anything.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 08:10 PM
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10.5:1 compression? Damn! Hope they don't expect anyone in a hot climate to tow anything.
It's 11.5, and I'm certain they have taken steps to ensure that the engine will survive in hot weather. Remember that this engine has the benefit of direct injection that most of Ford's truck engines do not.
 
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