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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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straight pipe questions

so i have a 1986 f350 with a 6.9 and i just recently strait piped it and my dad wants me to ask if theres any drawbacks or things that could go wrong with having a strait pipe? from my understanding it helps everything. correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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1) You won't be able to hear yourself think

2) Your neighbors and the cops might not be too happy

3) If you have a state that does emissions inspections, you might be in trouble

As far as the engine and performance goes, no problems at all.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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It won't hurt anything but your ears
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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It won't even hurt your ears, if you run stacks and get them high enough over the cab!

 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MT4x4guy
It won't even hurt your ears, if you run stacks and get them high enough over the cab!

x2! That's what I've done (single 6inch stack). It only gets loud at the end of shifts (if you have the c6) and highway rpms, like 2000 rpm and above. Truthfully, when a cop passes you just take your foot out of it and they won't hear it. If a cop is behind you at a light just manually shift early in the gears, for example shift at the torque max (around 1800 rpm) versus at 2000rpm or higher.

In all actuality you'll be fine with the neighbors too if you keep the rpms down.

And correct me if I'm wrong here but its my understanding that none of the 7.3 IDIs and the 6.9s had a catalytic converter. Cats were only required on 7.3 powerstrokes and on after 1997. I don't have a source on this though except personal experience
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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still illeagal to have no muffler
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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still illeagal to have no muffler
My dads power stroke has no muffler and has passed D.O.T safety inspection. I would think if it was illegal he would have been caught.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Not illegal where I live, the majority of diesels run with no muffs, What happens where I live, is most get farm vehicle exemptions and take the mufflers off, also many run red diesel as well, there never any check points, so pretty much normal.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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Having it straight piped in terms is suppose to make more power, and better fuel economy (as some have claimed), but I straight piped my van, and seen 0 difference in anything else but sound quality. I purely did it cause I love the sound.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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From what I understand in colorado. You don't need a muffler just some place for the gasses to expand. Like going from 3" to 4" pipe, even 3" to a 4" tip can pass but it's questionable.
idis I've been around are quite even straight piped no worse than a gasser with a glass pack, most of the noise comes from under the hood.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hairyboxnoogle
still illeagal to have no muffler
That's what I thought.... I have a state inspectors license in WV and you have to have an OEM type muffler. Welded seam mufflers are illegal. I'm not saying it is enforced, but it is not legal.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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That's what I thought.... I have a state inspectors license in WV and you have to have an OEM type muffler. Welded seam mufflers are illegal. I'm not saying it is enforced, but it is not legal.
What I was thinking about doing with my '89 7.3 after I put the turbo on, is either using the existing pipe from the doner truck (which is basically straight piped, not even sure if it has a muffler) or straight piping it myself and putting one of my mufflers in the mix somewhere. I have true duals on it now that dump out infront of the wheels and it has a big round long muffler under each running board. Not sure if they are OEM style or not? I didnt put this system on it, I bought it like that. It passed PA inspection but I live in Morgantown, WV and gotta find an inspector here that will pass it either way.

with how it currently is now, its really loud and I dont really like it cause when I go through a drive through or something, I have to shut the truck off so they can hear me order, haha, which I dont like doing since its hard on the GPs batteries and starter
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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You'll still have to shut down in the drive-through, it's a diesel.
PSDs can get away without mufflers much easier since they are turbocharged. The turbo does quite a bit to muffle the sound, and generally a larger pipe with less restriction will allow faster spooling and lower EGTs. Most of the gain people have seen pulling the muffler off an IDI is from ditching the stock 2 1/4" pipe and restrictive style muffler.
So, the proper solution is to put a 3" or 4" pipe behind a turbo-
 
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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You'll still have to shut down in the drive-through, it's a diesel.
PSDs can get away without mufflers much easier since they are turbocharged. The turbo does quite a bit to muffle the sound, and generally a larger pipe with less restriction will allow faster spooling and lower EGTs. Most of the gain people have seen pulling the muffler off an IDI is from ditching the stock 2 1/4" pipe and restrictive style muffler.
So, the proper solution is to put a 3" or 4" pipe behind a turbo-
Ok, so just running 3 or 4 inch straight piped behind the turbo is all I would need to do? I'm all for power, faster spooling and lower EGTs but I also value my hearing too, haha but it wont be as bad with the pipe actually going all the way to the back of the truck instead of dumping out a couple feet behind my ear.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 05:05 PM
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One of the axle sets I sold went to a guy with a straightpiped turboed IDI in a crew cab on a short frame, it sounded great. The exhaust was all the way to the back, but at idle it had a nice rumble with a little turbo whine. I saw him on the highway a bit later and it sounded louder than stock, but not annoyingly so.
 
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