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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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Pats Has My Excursion Down Need Help!

Hello All and thanx in advance for any help you can give. Here's my issue:
A week ago my ex just died while driving. Theft light flashes rapidly then gives the code 1.6. So, I think Pats has problem, key, communicator, whatever. Then I think, I don't want pats anyway and I've wanted a tuner for a while now. So I get a custom Tuner that will tune the vehicle and disable pats. Great right! Wrong! I finally got 1 tune to load, the ex still will not start. And now the tuner cannot take the vehicle back to stock and I'm staring up the short end of a tow to the dealer. Not cool. So here's my newest thought and looking for advice on this one before I go ahead. Maybe my ecu is just shot. Oh, by the way my tuner will not read any dtc either. Here are my questions.
1. So if the ecu is shot I replace it right?
2. If I do can I use a v-10 sd ecu that wouldn't have pats?
3. If I do that can I re-flash that to run my ex?
4. If the sd ecu is not an option can I swap to an ex ecu?
5. If I go with the ex ecu do I need to flash it to work in my ex?
Any, other tips and advice would be most helpful. I need my ex back badly!
Thanx again.
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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I know the key is married to the pats so that may be part of it. I know when i tuned my 2000 psd ex there was a secial process with pats equipted systems. Something like turning the key to on but not starting it for 90 seconds for it to learn.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Since PATS cannot cause a running engine to stop running I'm simply going to say that you misdiagnosed the original problem then applied the Band Aid to the wrong item.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 06:38 AM
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Interesting. I didn't know that PATS could not cause a running engine to stop. Then why is my theft light blinking an error code? Maybe the issue is really a bad ecu and the theft light blinking is really a brainfart from the bad computer? Any thoughts on that idea?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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It could be a simple as a blown fuse that supplies power to the PCM or the PATS circuitry.


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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 09:44 AM
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I have an extra pcm in my garage from an EX if that is your problem. What year is this?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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did you ever figure out what the issue was
 
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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Stiil no luck with ex.

No, still don't have the excursion up and running. Checked the fuses and for loose wires and still can't find anything.
Anyone, know a definite way to check if the pcm/ecu is bad?
I tried the scrap yard figuring for $25 bucks I could test out my theory of reprogramming a different computer. No, luck. The yard man looked at me cross eyed when I said I was looking for a v-10.
So, yeah probably looking for a new pcm/ecu.
Any other suggestion on testing the computer I would love to hear.
 
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Call Mike at Mike's 5 Star and discuss with him. He also sells fully operational pcm's along with the best programmer for V-10's.

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