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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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alright i just all my parts for my 460 except a different cam i want one that is kinda lopey and has low end power i got stock d3ve-a2a heads that i want to get rid of everything's fresh got from a engine shop in indy that was cleaning inventory a edelbrock 750 carb and edelbrock performer 460 intake motors bored 40 over i really wanna trade or get some d0ve heads on a budget cause in college
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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i want one that is kinda lopey and has low end power
These two requests do not go hand in hand. You could narrow up the lobe separation angle to say 110° and that would give you lope, but that would result in a very "peaky" torque curve. You would hate it. Here's a nickel, give me 3 cents back plz.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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i want it to have some power but still sound good while doing it
 
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Its a big block ford, decent exhaust and she will sound great. That lope your looking for doesn't belong in a truck. It pushes the power band higher in the rpm range. Say 2500-3500 at least. Then your talking stall converters and lower final drive gears. If you wanna go that route, it's your choice, but its gonna be a pain to pull a boat and such.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Just a ballpark, something around 264-270 on the intake with a slightly hotter exhaust profile.

Edelbrock Performer would be decent, slightly more chop than a stock cam but more power.

I prefer Comp Cams but I'm a SBF guy, not much experience with bigger engines.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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Your right then what should I get for the power but decent price
 
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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Just at a quick glance, something like the Comp Cams 265DEH 34-226-4, low enough duration that you certainly won't have any low RPM power complaints, dual pattern *might* have a little chop to the exhaust, certainly more chop than a stock camshaft, but not a monster thumper.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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For a budget.
 
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Comp cams 270. Same combo eddy intake, 750 carb etc. Here's a video on my truck.

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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by xkpsanit
Its a big block ford, decent exhaust and she will sound great. That lope your looking for doesn't belong in a truck. It pushes the power band higher in the rpm range. Say 2500-3500 at least. Then your talking stall converters and lower final drive gears. If you wanna go that route, it's your choice, but its gonna be a pain to pull a boat and such.
A tighter lobe separation WILL increase low end torque, dynamic compression and give a slight lop at idle at the cost of some top end. I run a 213/219 @.050 lunati in my similar 460 that was ground on a 108 lsa. Get a custom cam for the extra $20 dollars it cost and spec'd by someone with lots of BBF knowledge.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2013 | 10:54 PM
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Comp 270 will give you a nice sound at idle and awesome throttle response. Not much sacrifice of the low end, but consider degreeing your cam in advanced if you want the lope and the low end torque, a few degrees of cam timing make a noticeable difference. Generally speaking, ford 385 series engines like more exhaust duration as opposed to a single pattern grind.

With a edelbrock carb, you will be lucky to support 6000 rpm anyway, so a high revver is out of the question with parts stated, not to mention that the performer intake WILL NOT bolt to a CJ flange therefore they are a limiting factor as well, good to 5500 in a 460 and nothing more. Awesome low end response and lighter than stock.

The "lope" you seek is generally caused from an over lap in the cam lobes, meaning that the intake opens before the exhaust closes, and this causes for the exhaust charge to create a suction in the cylinder as it is leaving and the suction is transferred to the intake charge, loading the cylinder. At an idle, the exhaust has no volume or velocity and therefore the manifold vacuum suffers at idle and the intake charge isn't as smooth as it should be entering the cylinder, creating a "lope"

Now, A 460 is a torque monster, so low end torque is there, build for some mid range and enjoy it. Your intake will not support a cam much north of 270 anyway, so that 270 advertised, maybe 226-230 @0.050. Keep close track of valve train geometry, anything much over .500 lift will start losing lift really fast from wrong pushrod length and poor geometry.

A balanced rotating assembly will pay dividends on this selection. That intake/cam/carb/head combo will live really nicely on pump gas @ about 9.5-10:1 static CR and run well with stock ignition components.

A few factors to keep in mind, are what is your piston selection? What is the deck height? What is the CC or the combustion chamber on the heads? If you have a D3 headed 460 with flat tops, 9-10:1 is easily attainable, but if you go dove heads, you will be hard pressed to get to the 9:1 territory and may well be north of 10:1 depending on how much the heads are milled and the block was decked.

Good luck and have fun. Be very careful about what advice to follow, the forums are loaded with good information, but one bad piece of advice taken to heart and you have a terrible parts combo all of a sudden.
 
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