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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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I will bet the Web Site has an error. I am thinking the max cold is 80. Check the side wall though. Toyo own's Nitto, and the trail grappler is a basic design of the Toyo MT. I am sure there are more differences than no siping but the weight's and all are almost the same.
Will do thanks if it says its higher I'm assuming its probably a better ride than 55 up front and 65 in the rear.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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Contact Nitto and ask. It may be that it's just in that tire size that inflation pressures are different, because they claim that tire has an extremely high load index at 65 psi, almost 3500 pounds.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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Can you be surprised? You're pushing its limits just rolling down the road empty.
Thing is that I did not know they were 5 ply until I took them in to be rotated and balanced and they told me they were 5 ply. The dealership made a big deal about it and the guy went on and on about how reckless this was of me to put the 5 ply on. He shut up after I told him I bought the truck from there dealership used with that tire on it.




Anyone heard anything about Cooper M+S?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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Cooper M&S grip well and have a lot of siping. They don't wear for crap though because of the soft compound. Dedicated winter tires have a softer compound for extra traction.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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I did not know they were 5 ply until I took them in to be rotated and balanced and they told me they were 5 ply.
Can you please post a picture of the tire sidewall where it says "5 PLY"?

PS I would've demanded to speak to the general manager and express my outrage that they sold you a truck that their tech said was unsafe--reckless, even--to be driving, especially when they were supposed to have inspected the truck for safety, and demand they fix it by installing new tires like whatever comes OEM.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Firekite
Can you please post a picture of the tire sidewall where it says "5 PLY"?

PS I would've demanded to speak to the general manager and express my outrage that they sold you a truck that their tech said was unsafe--reckless, even--to be driving, especially when they were supposed to have inspected the truck for safety, and demand they fix it by installing new tires like whatever comes OEM.
Sure they are Rugged Trail T/A get a photo when it's day time if you would like. They don't even make that tire in 10 ply.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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That's what I'm really aiming to help you understand: there's no such thing as 5 ply or 10 ply.

Rugged Trail T/A tires are actually OEM selections on some Super Duties (or have been in the past at least), and are available with a Load Index up to 121, which is 3,200 pounds per tire, which more than exceeds any SRW GVWR. See the specs: Rugged Trail T/A | BFGoodrich Tires
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Firekite
That's what I'm really aiming to help you understand: there's no such thing as 5 ply or 10 ply.

Rugged Trail T/A tires are actually OEM selections on some Super Duties (or have been in the past at least), and are available with a Load Index up to 121, which is 3,200 pounds per tire, which more than exceeds any SRW GVWR. See the specs: Rugged Trail T/A | BFGoodrich Tires
OK see what your saying but if I enter my tuck on the link you sent me it will say Unfortunately, this tire line does not meet your vehicle's specifications. That is if you go to fits my vehicle. I would think if the makes of the tire say it does not meet vehicle's specifications then you should not use it?

I don't know much about tires so maybe my thinking is wrong?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by xmontex4
Will do thanks if it says its higher I'm assuming its probably a better ride than 55 up front and 65 in the rear.

I got the 295 70 18 Trail Grapplers and the air pressure rating is 80 and over 4k for weight capacity on the sidewall. The aftermarket wheels don't hold near that much though I believe 3,600#?. I keep the pressure at what helps the tire wear the best = evenly. 75 front and 70 rear unloaded. When the towing/hauling 75 front and rear. 80 seemed to make the centers wear quickly. I know one thing, they are tough. When I load down heavy the tires never bulge even a little.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tayous1
I don't know much about tires so maybe my thinking is wrong?
Very possibly, yes. They make different sizes and specs for those tires, but we still have no idea what you have on your truck.

PLEASE go out and look at your tire. Write down or take a picture of what's printed on the sidewall, where it says the exact size with the speed rating (a single letter such as a "Q") and load index (a number such as "116" or whatever). Then come post it here.

PS The load ratings and inflation pressures on the sidewall are the maximums at which the tire can be safely used, not necessarily what the "right" choice is for you to have at any given time. For inflation, if you have stock tires, go by the sticker on your door jamb and only adjust from there if there's a problem.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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Just checked the side of my tired, they say load range E but 65 psi cold...odd
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xmontex4
Just checked the side of my tired, they say load range E but 65 psi cold...odd
That doesn't seem odd to me at all. Larger tires have a wide tread surface to apply the pressure to. Large tires always have lower pressures even if they are the same load range. The huge meats used on those heavy monster trucks only run between 12-20 PSI.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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That doesn't seem odd to me at all. Larger tires have a wide tread surface to apply the pressure to. Large tires always have lower pressures even if they are the same load range. The huge meats used on those heavy monster trucks only run between 12-20 PSI.
Really? i didn't know even think of that i guess it makes sense then, thanks for clearing that up tom wanted to make sure my tires were airs up right lol.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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Really? i didn't know even think of that i guess it makes sense then, thanks for clearing that up tom wanted to make sure my tires were airs up right lol.
Yup.

Testing the Grave Digger Monster Truck

The little bitty tires on my small trailer have to be at 90 PSI for the axle to support 2,000 lbs, but the tires on my F150 only need 35 PSI to support double that weight. Most temporary spare tires for cars(AKA "donuts) require 60 PSI when their normal-size counterparts only require 28-33 PSI.

 
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