Notices
6.4L Power Stroke Diesel Engine fitted to 2008 - 2010 F250, F350 and F450 pickup trucks and F350 + Cab Chassis

Tie rod movement

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 4, 2013 | 08:32 PM
  #1  
countryboy73703's Avatar
countryboy73703
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Tie rod movement

Installed a rancho dual stabilizer today and realized that my tie rods and that link that connects them pretty easily moves.. But it moves in a radial direction... Like it twists... I'm gonna check tomorrow and see if there is up and down or side to side play but just curious if the movement I have is normal. If its not does anybody know some good replacement tie rods? Auto zone wants 134, dealer wants almost 200... I haven't seen where I can buy only the joint, I'm guessing you can't ... Any info is appreciated.

-Josh
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2013 | 09:16 PM
  #2  
Tom's Avatar
Tom
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 25,479
Likes: 742
From: Isanti, MN
Club FTE Gold Member
Hi Josh,

Just because you can twist the joint on the ball doesn't mean that it's bad. Any end play, either up and down or side to side would mean that you have a problem though. The whole point to the ball and socket tie rod end is to permit movement in several directions.

I like Moog suspension components, and they are reasonably priced on Rockauto. But it doesn't seem from your OP that yours are bad.
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2013 | 10:36 PM
  #3  
countryboy73703's Avatar
countryboy73703
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Well I'm going to get a crow bar and check tomorrow cause I do feel some slop, although the dual stabilizer helped a lot.. But it still shouldn't feel the way that it does, and I didn't mean that the ball joint its self twisting, I ment the linkage that connect to the 2 sides
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2013 | 10:31 PM
  #4  
brian1253's Avatar
brian1253
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by countryboy73703
Well I'm going to get a crow bar and check tomorrow cause I do feel some slop, although the dual stabilizer helped a lot.. But it still shouldn't feel the way that it does, and I didn't mean that the ball joint its self twisting, I ment the linkage that connect to the 2 sides
the tie rods should twist but not go side to side. get a buddy to turn the steering wheel and look at the tie rod ends if one looks sloppy replace it. you should only need to turn the wheel a few inches in each direction. be sure to measure the length from center of tie rod end to center of the coresponding tie rod end. or just count the threads showing like most people.
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2013 | 10:50 PM
  #5  
brian1253's Avatar
brian1253
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
did you install the stabilizer because the steering was loose? you might just have a bad tie rod end and with the stabilizer just patched the problem instead of fixing it. disconect the stabilizer and do the test i mentioned
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 08:21 AM
  #6  
countryboy73703's Avatar
countryboy73703
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by brian1253
did you install the stabilizer because the steering was loose? you might just have a bad tie rod end and with the stabilizer just patched the problem instead of fixing it. disconect the stabilizer and do the test i mentioned
No, I got the dual stabilizer because I was getting bump steer and some jitters when hitting a bump going down the road, plus I recently put on 37's, although I think I'm gonna down size to 35's cause it's too much tire for normal driving... anyway, no, the stabilizer helped keep things more solid, I don't see any play in the tie rods, but I was just checking to make sure the the adjust sleeve is allowed to rotate in a radial motion. the more I looked into it they seem fine, I do get kind of a mild popping noise when going over pot holes and stuff.. pisses me off every time is happens too... checked ball joints but they SEEM to be fine.. but I do have a heavy wheel, so I may just not have a big enough bar to properly check.
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 09:45 AM
  #7  
brian1253's Avatar
brian1253
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
i havent spent much time under my new truck yet but if we have grease fittings try to grease them. 37's are a bit big and some steering dificulties will be associated but i have 35's and dont have any problems i dont expect out of them.
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 10:12 AM
  #8  
countryboy73703's Avatar
countryboy73703
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by brian1253
i havent spent much time under my new truck yet but if we have grease fittings try to grease them. 37's are a bit big and some steering dificulties will be associated but i have 35's and dont have any problems i dont expect out of them.
I don't believe there are any Zerk Fittings on factory joints, most aftermarket do though. Also, I don't have too many problems with the 37's, they rub at full lock on the radius arm, but I don't turn that far. I like the look, but they are just too frickin' heavy, more brake to slow and stop, and more throttle to go, and slower accel. I'm gonna replace with 35x12.5's and 20's, right now they are 37x13.5 on factory 18's.

also, is there an easy way to adjust the gear box, I have a little more play in the wheel then I'd like, and I know how to adjust it, but actually doing it is another story, is there any easy way, or am I just gonna have to feel around, or use a mirror or something to see what the heck I'm doing?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-2

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 08:52 PM
  #9  
brian1253's Avatar
brian1253
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
i dont know how to adjust the gear box but a gear box shouldnt go bad for a really long time. i have replaced engines, transmissions transfercases and never a steering gear box. i have seen a steering gear box rip a frame it was rusted but still
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 09:19 PM
  #10  
countryboy73703's Avatar
countryboy73703
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
A gear box is easy to adjust, I'm not saying mine is going bad, I just wanna get rid of my steering wheel play, and adjusting the gear box will do just that... I was just wondering if anybody had an easy way of doing so
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:01 AM
  #11  
brian1253's Avatar
brian1253
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
my gear box just blew a seal yesterday emptied the whole reservoir in seconds. looks like i am going to get to replace one after all
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:06 AM
  #12  
countryboy73703's Avatar
countryboy73703
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
That stinks... Atleast its all right there and you anoint have to take about too much to get to it
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 02:06 PM
  #13  
GHeTTo JOe's Avatar
GHeTTo JOe
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 821
Likes: 1
From: 50450 IOWA
they are looking into a recall on that

"NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has received 5 complaints alleging an internal failure of the steering gear box resulting in a complete loss of steering control"
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2013 | 09:31 AM
  #14  
countryboy73703's Avatar
countryboy73703
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
has anyone replaced their steering pump? mine started whining after I put a 3 in' level on, I don't think it's starting to fail, but it just whines loudly, and I can't stand it, and I did try the flush procedure but that didn't help either. Just curious to if a reman or a new pump would be quiet since I've read ford's always tend to have steering pump whines
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mikren
1997 - 2003 F150
15
Apr 5, 2013 02:01 PM
mtnxtreme800
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
2
Aug 14, 2012 07:00 PM
7.3 Ex
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
5
Jun 10, 2008 12:11 AM
kjett
Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Tires, & Wheels
3
Dec 30, 2003 06:50 AM
jjp
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Mar 1, 2002 10:12 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:26 PM.

story-0
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE