Lubrication Recommendations
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 268
Likes: 2
Lubrication Recommendations
Hello Everybody,
I purchased my Excursion about 10 days ago and this weekend I will be changing most of the fluids and all of the filters. Below is a list of what I plan to go with and intervals that I have seen for the changes. If anybody has any better ideas please let me know.
Engine Rotella 5W-40 T6
5000 miles
Power Steering Mercon/Dextron III
As needed
Transfer case Mercon/Dextron III or synthetic. Replace every 100K or as needed. If using 4x4 often then every 30K-60K.
Front Differential synthetic 80W-90
Rear Differential 75W-140 Synthetic with friction fighter or add a friction fighter additive.
Every 100K
Top and bottom fuel filter
I am not planning to change the engine coolant just yet, I am ordering an EGR Delete and will be draining the fluid for this install so I will change the coolant then.
I have seen many different threads talking about the EGR Delete and oil cooler change, why do I need to change the cooler inside the engine, wouldn't it be better to add an external cooler in front of the radiator?
Thanks,
Jeff
I purchased my Excursion about 10 days ago and this weekend I will be changing most of the fluids and all of the filters. Below is a list of what I plan to go with and intervals that I have seen for the changes. If anybody has any better ideas please let me know.
Engine Rotella 5W-40 T6
5000 miles
Power Steering Mercon/Dextron III
As needed
Transfer case Mercon/Dextron III or synthetic. Replace every 100K or as needed. If using 4x4 often then every 30K-60K.
Front Differential synthetic 80W-90
Rear Differential 75W-140 Synthetic with friction fighter or add a friction fighter additive.
Every 100K
Top and bottom fuel filter
I am not planning to change the engine coolant just yet, I am ordering an EGR Delete and will be draining the fluid for this install so I will change the coolant then.
I have seen many different threads talking about the EGR Delete and oil cooler change, why do I need to change the cooler inside the engine, wouldn't it be better to add an external cooler in front of the radiator?
Thanks,
Jeff
Lead Driver
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 8,241
Likes: 155
From: L.A. (Lower Alabama)
Your notes on fluids look just like mine 
. So if your wrong, I'm wrong too!
The oil cooler needs replaced only if it is clogging up. Not really a "while your in there" type of repair for most of us. To determine if it's clogging, monitor engine oil temp and coolant temp with an OBDII monitor of your choice. If oil temp doesn't exceed coolant by 15*f it is serviceable.
EOT/ECT check
TSB 09-8-3
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...3&d=1318287140
NOTE: many people substitute crusing unloaded at 65mph with ECT over 190* instead of the full throttle test described in the TSB above.
The external coolers are a nice piece and a few members here have (and like) them. They are pricy however and for most of us a properly working factory cooler does the job nicely.
. So if your wrong, I'm wrong too!The oil cooler needs replaced only if it is clogging up. Not really a "while your in there" type of repair for most of us. To determine if it's clogging, monitor engine oil temp and coolant temp with an OBDII monitor of your choice. If oil temp doesn't exceed coolant by 15*f it is serviceable.
EOT/ECT check
TSB 09-8-3
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...3&d=1318287140
NOTE: many people substitute crusing unloaded at 65mph with ECT over 190* instead of the full throttle test described in the TSB above.
The external coolers are a nice piece and a few members here have (and like) them. They are pricy however and for most of us a properly working factory cooler does the job nicely.
Certified Thread Hijacker
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 14,441
Likes: 59
The oil cooler needs replaced only if it is clogging up. Not really a "while your in there" type of repair for most of us. To determine if it's clogging, monitor engine oil temp and coolant temp with an OBDII monitor of your choice. If oil temp doesn't exceed coolant by 15*f it is serviceable.
EOT/ECT check
TSB 09-8-3
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...3&d=1318287140
NOTE: many people substitute crusing unloaded at 65mph with ECT over 190* instead of the full throttle test described in the TSB above.
EOT/ECT check
TSB 09-8-3
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...3&d=1318287140
NOTE: many people substitute crusing unloaded at 65mph with ECT over 190* instead of the full throttle test described in the TSB above.
THE CORRECT PROCEEDURE FOR CHECKING DELTAS!
NOTE: Verify that no accessories are in use (engine block or oil heaters).
Clear all the DTCs.
Cold soak the vehicle at ambient temperature for a minimum of 10 hours.
Ignition ON, engine OFF.
Access the PCM and monitor the ECT (TEMP) PID.
Access the PCM and monitor the EOT (TEMP) PID.
Access the PCM and monitor the RPM (RPM) PID.
Access the PCM and monitor the MFDES (MASS) PID.
Record the ECT and EOT sensor temperature values.
Drive the vehicle at an engine speed greater than 1,800 RPM and 15 mg/stroke MFDES for at least 15 minutes. Select the appropriate gear to achieve the operating conditions.
Does the ECT PID and EOT PID temperature values change by a minimum of 6ºC (10ºF) from when the ignition ON, engine OFF valves were recorded?
IF Yes
INSTALL a new oil cooler kit.
IF NO
INSTALL a new ECT sensor or EOT sensor in question.
CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test.
Now.....
1800 RPM is 65 mph in my truck in OD. Kind of a funny coincidence 'eh?
Josh
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 268
Likes: 2
I'm using Royal Purple Max ATF Synthetic Oil for the power steering pump, Royal Purple Max Gear with friction modifier additive 75W-140 for the rear diff and will change the front diff when I fix the front axle leak. I was able to get the factory oil filter cap so that will get replaced.
This diesel is getting expensive and I just started.
This diesel is getting expensive and I just started.
Posting Guru
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,590
Likes: 0
Motorcraft brand filters only for fuel, oil and transmission and while you are at it, I would drain the tranny pan. You will need to drain and add 7.5 quarts of Mercon LV Transmission Fluid. It sells for $5.99 per quart at O'Reilly's Auto Parts around here. If you can find it cheaper, go for it. Then in about 100 miles, do it again, and another 100, do it again. The experts will correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I did. Shifts much better now and the fluid looks great!
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 268
Likes: 2
I thinking about painting the rear diff cover hot pink, just to be different and because my wife has a thing for hot pink. Maybe I will paint the front cover the same when I do that one.
Trending Topics
Elder User
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 944
Likes: 0
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
When I went through my motor I changed to Mobil 1 turbo diesel truck 5w40 and am very happy with it.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!
Michael S. Palmer
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!
Joe Kucinski
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026
Brett Foote
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time
Joe Kucinski
Posting Guru
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,590
Likes: 0
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,834
Likes: 25
From: Middle Tn.
Hello Everybody,
I purchased my Excursion about 10 days ago and this weekend I will be changing most of the fluids and all of the filters. Below is a list of what I plan to go with and intervals that I have seen for the changes. If anybody has any better ideas please let me know.
Engine Rotella 5W-40 T6
5000 miles
Power Steering Mercon/Dextron III
As needed
Transfer case Mercon/Dextron III or synthetic. Replace every 100K or as needed. If using 4x4 often then every 30K-60K.
Front Differential synthetic 80W-90
Rear Differential 75W-140 Synthetic with friction fighter or add a friction fighter additive.
Every 100K
Top and bottom fuel filter
I am not planning to change the engine coolant just yet, I am ordering an EGR Delete and will be draining the fluid for this install so I will change the coolant then.
I have seen many different threads talking about the EGR Delete and oil cooler change, why do I need to change the cooler inside the engine, wouldn't it be better to add an external cooler in front of the radiator?
Thanks,
Jeff
I purchased my Excursion about 10 days ago and this weekend I will be changing most of the fluids and all of the filters. Below is a list of what I plan to go with and intervals that I have seen for the changes. If anybody has any better ideas please let me know.
Engine Rotella 5W-40 T6
5000 miles
Power Steering Mercon/Dextron III
As needed
Transfer case Mercon/Dextron III or synthetic. Replace every 100K or as needed. If using 4x4 often then every 30K-60K.
Front Differential synthetic 80W-90
Rear Differential 75W-140 Synthetic with friction fighter or add a friction fighter additive.
Every 100K
Top and bottom fuel filter
I am not planning to change the engine coolant just yet, I am ordering an EGR Delete and will be draining the fluid for this install so I will change the coolant then.
I have seen many different threads talking about the EGR Delete and oil cooler change, why do I need to change the cooler inside the engine, wouldn't it be better to add an external cooler in front of the radiator?
Thanks,
Jeff
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post