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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pilgrimbizket
I really do appreciate the help

So did you have it wired incorrectly or was it not seated correctly?

I dont think I have it wired wrong this starter is pretty cut and dry it just has room for a positive and a little spot for the ground. Im not going to put it past myself I have wired stuff wrong in the past. You can see in the ebay pic the only available terminals are, a big one for positive and a one small for a ground.

I dont know, Ive had this thing in and out of the truck 3 times, my stock one works fine.

Im going to guess my starter is bad?
Mine was wired incorrectly. It was not a seating issue. Basically, what I did was failed to see the small electrical wire when I took the old one off, and the weight of the starter pulled the terminal end right off the wire when I removed it. So, I go to put on the new one, and I see a big terminal end, and a wire with bare copper hanging out, thinking, "Aw, crap. Where does that go?" While I was under the truck, I could only see two of the three posts. The big one, which obviously went with the big ring, and the bottom one of the small ones. The small one was not visible from where I was laying to do this job. So, I had my box of terminal end rings, and picked one that would fit on the one I could see (incorrectly believing that it was the only other one), and hooked it up. The effect that this had was that it would rev up the starter without "shooting" it out to meet the flexplate teeth. I had an embarrassing thread about it, which you can probably find if you search.

If I were you, I would install your new starter, pull off the inspection cover for your torque converter/flexplate area, get under the truck, then watch what happens when somebody turns the key. Leave the truck in park, wear eye protection and all other related PPE, engage the parking brake and take all other possible precautions, as always before doing this.

Hey, wait a minute - if your stock starter works fine, then why are you replacing it? Why not just use that one?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckHammer
If I were you, I would install your new starter, pull off the inspection cover for your torque converter/flexplate area, get under the truck, then watch what happens when somebody turns the key. Leave the truck in park, wear eye protection and all other related PPE, engage the parking brake and take all other possible precautions, as always before doing this.

Hey, wait a minute - if your stock starter works fine, then why are you replacing it? Why not just use that one?
Yeah that is what needs to happen, I will have to remove the inspection plate. Thank you

I bought the starter when I was tweakin out on my truck and just started replacing stuff left and right. Wish I would of never of bought it.
 
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Old May 9, 2014 | 08:06 AM
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they don't make shim for these starters
 
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Old May 10, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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Chevies use Shims.

nuff said?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 11:24 PM
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To Shim or Not to Shim?

ok, so I bought an 85 F1-50 from someone for a really great price due to starter issues...
I bought new starter, new flexplate, and had it installed... dude who installed it cutaway the blockplate/inspection plate (what IS it called, really?) so when i started it, it would grind, I was told this plate was ABSOLUTELY necessary on a Ford, so I found one, installed it, still a grind....
Then someone told me that I needed a shim, and even though I have always heard "Not on a Ford" there was actually a shim that was listed, so I paid $14 freakin bux, for the damn thing, but cannot find anything online regarding this except some Ford Alert regarding starters needing shims, but I have also read that I may need a "High Torque Starter"? Before I pay someone to tear into it again, Id like to know how I should proceed.... I am not a mechanic, lol just mechanically inclined female. This is my first Ford, im in love and cannot drive it yet please help! Also starter stayes engaged on occasion and when it wont start, turning the flywheel fixes it... i have a 351w ho Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pilgrimbizket
Yeah that is what needs to happen, I will have to remove the inspection plate. Thank you

I bought the starter when I was tweakin out on my truck and just started replacing stuff left and right. Wish I would of never of bought it.
Not sure how long ago you bought the starter, but I would try to get your money back as it clearly doesn't fit right. If the seller won't cooperate I think you have some last resort options with ebay and Paypal. Good luck with it.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 04:29 AM
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Update....
After much reading I called AutoZone and asked about my flexplate tooth number and starter tooth number, (I had read somewhere about it, lol) turns out they gave me a starter for a MANUAL transmission! So, changed it and its fixed! At least that problem is... on to the transmission forum for me, *sigh*
Thanks to everyone for the help!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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Wow, good 'ol autozzzz. I was going to say, if it was the right starter, but was another issue, I would have kept the starter as a spare.
 
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