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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Engine swap problems 5.0

Have a 1989 f -150 The original engine has been replaced with a 1995 ford racing block , crank and pistons . We used the rest of the parts from the old engine. Truck runs but not very well. It seems to sound like it is miss firing, runs rough After a little research I have found that the firing order changed in 95

pre 1995 firing order 15426378

1995 firing order 13726548

We have checked the wiring, timing, repalced the FPR, has new fuel injectors, the heads have been rebuilt w/roller rockers, the cam is new w/mild lift from the old engine New hydralic lifters

Some of the plugs are showing high carbon build up

So to fix this Do we need to change the cam, the ECM and switch the firing order to make this work. Is there a easy fix? Or am I just too stupid to make this run
 

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The firing order is dependent on the cam so what firing order is it supposed to have? Plug wires must match the cam firing order but injectors will not because the EFI system in the '89 truck is batch fired.. 2 batches of 4 injectors.

You are familiar with the how Ford cylinder numbering sequence differs from Chev and Dodge right?

If you still have all the original wiring on the motor and have not changed any of the injector wiring around then it will run with either firing order but the cam must have no more than about 210deg intake duration at 0.050" lift and no less than 112deg LSA, so in general cams designed for a carbed motor are no good.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 09:55 PM
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Thanks for your reply We will check on the cam lifts hopefully that's the fix

The engine does run in either of those firing orders What's kinda strange is that the engine runs the same in both firing orders

The swap of firing order is 5/3 4/7 3/5 7/4 the other four cylinders remain the same

it's the swap cylinders with the carbon build up on the plugs

Is there any difference in the positioning of the crank shaft compression stroke between the 2 ( 94 and before and 95 up)?

Will get back with the cam specs
Thanks again
 
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