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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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I'll take that restore and restore plus off your hands just to help you out...lol.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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I'll take that restore and restore plus off your hands just to help you out...lol.
It was only $52.00 total for a gallon of each. I'm sure I will need it soon enough. I have 12-13 degree deltas on mine.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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Bought the Dieselsite Coolant Filter at 67K miles in 2010 and now have 89K miles on the truck. I see that the fittings have changed and that is a good thing as some folks had some leakage at the "T" fitting. I also bought the two valves so that changing the filter is less messy. I have used three filters so far and I have not gotten anything out of those filters like gunk or goo, etc.-just some small sandy particulates and not much of that.

Was there any differential advantage to the Dieselsite? I don't really know but what sold me was when I called to talk to them, they told be everyone was at a race and they would call me back. The owner called me back in a few days and answered my questions. That's the kind of guy I like to deal with so he got my business. I'm happy with the installation.

As to the coolant, I have paid the Ford house to change my coolant at 60K and 87K and they flushed the system and then put in Ford Gold coolant with distilled water. The net cost over me doing it myself was $75 per flush so I splurged and had it done. This may have helped with keeping the system relatively clean. The Delta of EOT over ECT is between 10 and 12 degrees F at 65 MPH on the flats.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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No filter on my truck, just don't see how sticking a straw in the side of a fire hose will pull trash out. I focused on getting the system clean and maintaining it. Been over a year since the the switch over to Cat ELC and a new cooler, max deltas while pulling are 11* as they have been since the change.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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No filter on my truck, just don't see how sticking a straw in the side of a fire hose will pull trash out.
You're the first person I have ever read that speaks out against coolant filters. Weird.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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You're the first person I have ever read that speaks out against coolant filters. Weird.
ditto: there are a ton of folks that cut their filters apart after taking them off that prove otherwise. Maybe it's not a perfect, or total answer, but they absolutely do work. Regular flushing is still good too, but for a little over a hundred bucks and have both?!

People buy insurance, not because they plan on a fire or accident. Just sayin'...
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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ditto: there are a ton of folks that cut their filters apart after taking them off that prove otherwise. Maybe it's not a perfect, or total answer, but they absolutely do work. Regular flushing is still good too, but for a little over a hundred bucks and have both?!

People buy insurance, not because they plan on a fire or accident. Just sayin'...
If it gives you a warm and fuzzy, go for it, I look at it as another failure point. My system is clean and see no reason to invest in a cure for a problem that isn't there.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 05:42 AM
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I have the XDP and picked it up for 125 shipped (right before the july sale... go figure)

I will be installing it today, it looks nice though
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 08:03 AM
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If it gives you a warm and fuzzy, go for it, I look at it as another failure point. My system is clean and see no reason to invest in a cure for a problem that isn't there.
I hear what you are saying, but it's like someone saying remove that screen from that hose end, it will just end up blocking up from stuff in the system and I'll have to clean it out. The casting sand alone is what you are looking to remove completely from your system.

Check this forum post for more information:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-worth-it.html
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 08:23 AM
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My deltas are over 15 unfortunately ....around 20-25 on the highway....and I have been reading up and asking questions here on the forum on what to do. Since changing out the oil cooler is a bit of a process and expense....I'm going to FIRST try a coolant flush with Restore plus, put in Fleetrite ELC coolant and add the XDP coolant filter. Ill watch my deltas closely, and see where it gets me. Hopefully it'll buy me a lil time, I know the oil cooler replacement is the next step, and then might as well do a EGR delete once we're in there.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 99ExpyProblems
I hear what you are saying, but it's like someone saying remove that screen from that hose end, it will just end up blocking up from stuff in the system and I'll have to clean it out. The casting sand alone is what you are looking to remove completely from your system.

Check this forum post for more information:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-worth-it.html
No, it's not. It's a closed system, there is no mystical sand mine hiding deep inside the engine dumping spoonfuls every few thousand miles. A clean system will stay clean with proper coolant maintenance, my system is clean. Granted, some engines have problems that owners can't fix, but that doesn't apply to all 6.0's and all owners. If they made a system that would filter 100% of the coolant I might consider it, until then it's a non issue on my truck.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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No, it's not. It's a closed system, there is no mystical sand mine hiding deep inside the engine dumping spoonfuls every few thousand miles. A clean system will stay clean with proper coolant maintenance, my system is clean. Granted, some engines have problems that owners can't fix, but that doesn't apply to all 6.0's and all owners. If they made a system that would filter 100% of the coolant I might consider it, until then it's a non issue on my truck.
Casting sand is not unique to the 6.0. Nor is it mystical. Ford sent letters to owners of the Ford Edge saying that they were extending the warranty on the heater core to 105,000 because of casting sand stopping up the heater cores.

I just find it strange that you are the first person who I have ever read who said this filter will do nothing and I browsed ALL the forums for powerstrokes, I have picked up a couple of copies of Diesel Magazines and read that International has installed coolant filters with their version of the engine, the VT365. $148.00 or less for peace of mind.

You know just as much as I do about it because neither of us have installed it, so I would tend to believe people who have installed it and found pieces of sand, silicate precipitation or whatever gunk inside there and after 3 or 4 filters, they find nothing. Photo evidence everywhere. That tells me more than you just 'thinking' it serves no purpose. I hope you reconsider, your cooling system will thank you for it.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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He doesn't want one, it's his call
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jsm180
If it gives you a warm and fuzzy, go for it, I look at it as another failure point. My system is clean and see no reason to invest in a cure for a problem that isn't there.
Did you do the flush yourself, or have a shop do it? And did you/they pull the block drains for each rinse? That's a good place for sand to hang out. A mechanic that does a lot of 6.0 work said pretty much the same thing as you: just flush it frequently. He said once a year. I didn't use him because (even though he is Ford trained) had no clue about the block drains, didn't think distilled water was needed and absolutely thought Ford gold coolant was the only one to use.

Anyway, to each his own. My system was also thoroughly flushed prior to an oil cooler change out, block valves replaced with fumotos and distilled water and EC-1 coolant put back in. I'll let you know what I find when I open this first filter. As I understand it, casting sand can be released throughout the life of the block btw...
 
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