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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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I know it's a long box, just showing they are around...
 
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 11:55 AM
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I feel bad i never see that truck i was talking about and two weekends ago I saw it 3 times in the same day but i was driving so i couldn't snap a pic..plus it was in front of me.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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No worries guys,

I know they are around, jut not around here and Im not sure why. I thought again about trading but business is just to volatile to get rid of it and of course the dealer says its only worth 15k.

What really frosts my hiney about that is they have 05's with more miles in worse shape selling for 28k and people are paying it. I had mine on CL and all I got was tire kickers and I didn't think my price of 23k was unreasonable for whats been done.

Oh well the hunt for parts will continue, for now its put away for winter.

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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 05:48 PM
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So Im going to revive this dead thread. Im pretty much set on the idea to make this happen, I just can part with my truck but would like the extra stability of the dually.

I saw Speaker's thread and was excited to see him working on the conversion as he was set on the arrowcraft kit. But he too the easy way out and bought a newer truck. For me that's not an option, I cant really afford a new Lariat, and I really don't want to go down to an XLT or XL just to say I have a new truck.

So here are my thoughts:

Route 1: Get the arrow craft kit, this is a budget friendly kit, comes with the wheels, adapters, so all I would need is tires and fenders. What concerns me about this route is how the weight is carried on the rear now that they use adapters to achieve the dually conversion out back. My 5er is 13.5k ready to camp, and I, worried there weight will be on the wheel studs, not the hub, unfortunately I cant get a straight answer from arrowcraft.

Route 2: Find a rear end out of an 05-07 truck, buy new wheels, tires (which I would have to do with the arrowcraft kit), and buy the adapters for the front. This would cost roughly twice what the arrow craft set up would, but its a complete rear end.

I have a line on a rear end out of an 06 with 50k on it, it has the correct gear ratio as well, and its 1400.00, so can anyone help me with part numbers for the front dually adapters from FORD, my dealer wont help me because I don't have a vin number.

So for the fenders, because that to me is the real hurdle, I was thinking of going with the 11-up style, that way there I don't have the mess with the fuel fill or anything like that. Only thing I am curious of is the body line in the same spot on the newer trucks as they are on the 99-10 trucks. Also does anyone have the part numbers or a source where I can get a set of OE dually fenders for 11-up trucks.

Im really hoping to get this done this winter.

Thanks,

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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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No one has any words of encouragement...or discouragement for that matter.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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Even though it costs more, swapping in the rear axle is probably the best bet. It's the only way you get actual load bearing capacity versus sticking an extra pair of wheel on. I know you can't really change the RGAWR the tag is stamped with, but I feel like the rear adapters would be more likely to reduce the capacity you have now whereas the new axle is certainly not causing a reduction. What kind of sway bar are you going to run in the back?

Short bed duallies were made in the factory, there has to be a part number in the collision catalog for a fender with the fuel door in it. Maybe MDSuperDuty will let you borrow his VIN to look it up.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Here is a vin for an '05 dually so you can look up parts. 1FTWW33P55EC83203

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-F-350-Front-Dually-Super-Duty-Wheel-Adapters-/131245947286?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e8ede3996&vxp=mtr
 
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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Here is a 2011 vin for those fenders: 1FT8W3DT9BEA89564

Like I said before, I would only do this with an OE axle. It's the best way to get the gains your looking for.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 10:18 AM
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Yeah I pretty much have my mind set on the axle swap. I just need to find out if my rotors and caliper's will work too as I just replaced everything last year.

I do hope MDSUPERDUTY sees this thread and he PM's me his vin. I know FORD wants a boat load for the dually fenders, that's why I was kinda leaning towards the 11-up, they look like they may be a little less expensive and it would be unique...I guess.

My pan is to run a Helwig BigWig sway bar out back, which I may try before I do the swap. Im not looking for any increased capacity, just more stability.

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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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I was going to go with the arrowcraft kit on my 05 f-250 5.4 CC Lariet SB which had 18" factory alloy rims.

a. cost of rims/spacers
b. cost of all new tires since my 18" wont fit
c. cost of fenders and painting
d. invention for fuel nozzle since mos fenders were for long beds
This would have given me dually look, but not really dually functionality.

Decided to trade in my f-250 05 on an f-350 08 dually CC LB V-10.
a. gained a v-10
b. gained a 4.10 rear end
c. gained a long bed
d. gained true dually load abaility
e. gained 2.5 class 4 hitch
f. traded in an 88K truck for a 57K truck.
g. did lose Lariet trim and down graded to XL trim


I may have been more inclined to keep the 05 if it were a v-10.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Can someone take a measurement at the widest part of the rear of the truck?

This will be the deciding factor on my conversion...If it wont fit in my garage its a no go, I don't want to keep the truck outside all winter, and if I put it in the bigger part of my shop I would have to move it in and out every day...not good for a diesel as I don't drive it during the winter unless the roads are clean.

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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 09:59 AM
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96" wide. The mirrors are wider then the fenders at 110" extended, 105" in.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 10:00 AM
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Yeah I pretty much have my mind set on the axle swap. I just need to find out if my rotors and caliper's will work too as I just replaced everything last year.

I do hope MDSUPERDUTY sees this thread and he PM's me his vin. I know FORD wants a boat load for the dually fenders, that's why I was kinda leaning towards the 11-up, they look like they may be a little less expensive and it would be unique...I guess.

My pan is to run a Helwig BigWig sway bar out back, which I may try before I do the swap. Im not looking for any increased capacity, just more stability.

Sarge

You saw I gave you the vins for both an '05 and and '11 dually, right?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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Yes I did thanks,

I couldn't find how wide it was, I will have to measure my door and how wide my lift is...this is the deciding factor. I have located everything else I need...but if its too wide Im gonna scrap the idea for good, I just cant bring myself to let this thing sit outside all winter.

Thanks,

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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Well if your mirrors make it through, the fenders will to.
 
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