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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Volant Intake

I was wondering if it would be a worth while idea to upgrade to a Volant over the Banks intake. Just wondering if it would make a big difference or not? Thanks for any input.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 04:22 PM
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Not an easy question to answer. You see, Ford thought it would be cool to offer the Excursion with different drivetrains. So in '05 (assuming you have an '05 based on your user name, since you didn't say in your post), the Excursion could be bought with a 5.4L modular gas engine, a 6.8L modular gas engine, or the 6.0L diesel.

Pure marketing genius if you ask me!

Anyway, since the '05 Ex could have three different engines, and you haven't told us which engine you have, and you don't have your sig filled out, we can't answer your question!

All good-natured ribbing aside, just let us know what ya have under the hood of your Ex and we can give you the opinions you're asking for!

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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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Regardless of motor, I don't think one AM intake will do much better than another. If its a 6.0l, keep an eye on your filter. Check the intake tube from the back of the filter housing for dust periodically. If you oil the filter, check your MAF/IAT1 sensor. Oil on it can noticably affect performance
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 09:04 PM
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Maybe, but I'd heard the stock intakes on the 6.0's were perfectly fine and it was a waste of money to buy an aftermarket one, no?

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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
Maybe, but I'd heard the stock intakes on the 6.0's were perfectly fine and it was a waste of money to buy an aftermarket one, no?

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That is what I read as well.

Plus, an after-market CAI will allow more small particles through than the OEM and combined with the slight oily film from the crankcase venting into the turbo inlet results in the turbo needing to be replaced/rebuilt.

So, IF the Original Poster has the 6.0L PSD - KEEP/GET an OEM air filter setup.
If, you have a gasser you won't hurt anything - but your wallet.

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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
Maybe, but I'd heard the stock intakes on the 6.0's were perfectly fine and it was a waste of money to buy an aftermarket one, no?

Stewart
true dat

OEM 6.0 filter is good for 500 rwhp! After you attain that level, then you should consider aftermarket.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
Maybe, but I'd heard the stock intakes on the 6.0's were perfectly fine and it was a waste of money to buy an aftermarket one, no?

Stewart
That is true. I have a K&N FIPK2 system that's been in the garage for over 5 years. I ran it for 2000 miles, and that's it. I made a dozen or so passes at the track with it, and the results were slower times than stock. That was enough proof for me.

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That is what I read as well.

Plus, an after-market CAI will allow more small particles through than the OEM and combined with the slight oily film from the crankcase venting into the turbo inlet results in the turbo needing to be replaced/rebuilt.

So, IF the Original Poster has the 6.0L PSD - KEEP/GET an OEM air filter setup.
If, you have a gasser you won't hurt anything - but your wallet.

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More truth. Although it may take a long time to dust a turbo, or worse the cylinder bores, the risk is greater with every 6.0l aftermarket intake/filter sold today. The useful performance gains are negligible, regardless of the marketing test results. Even then, the improvement would only be at the highest portion of the RPM range.

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true dat

OEM 6.0 filter is good for 500 rwhp! After you attain that level, then you should consider aftermarket.
If you've got a motor that can suck in the filter minder, you know you need something more. May be 500, may be closer to 600, depending on what you got, and how you hammer it.

It's true that the 6.0l air filtration system is an excellent design, providing great flow and filtration. Typically when someone buys a vehicle, and it already has an aftermarket intake, it's almost impossible to convince them that the factory system is superior, and they should spend even more money to get it back to stock. Most take their chances with the AM, and leave it at that. I was just giving the guy a little insight as what to look for and avoid problems as he'll probably keep the Banks system on there.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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S the 2005 excursion I have has a flat "square".m it seems to be stock, as orielly's had it as an option, is that still better than aftermarket? All the other 6l diesels I see have a totally different filter, more of a "tube" with a hard plastic shell. If the OP has this same style, would after market be worth the money?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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The stock air filter housing has a rouggly 4" deep "tube" that connects to the turbo inlet.

The oem filter is heavily pleated to offer outstanding surface area to collect and hold pounds of dirt/dust and still flow well. The filter minder measures the filter floe amd will indicate when to replace the filter. Many folks report going years and replacing it even though it might not need it yet.

The oem filter also is designed to handle getting wet should a heavy rain on the highway allow water to get in along with the air.

If you need pictures, google for "6.0 bible" its a great resource
 
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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All good points when it comes to the 6.0 intake, stock works best.

However, Jeff05EX is a V10.

Art, one of the forum mods installed one on his V10 F250: Volant CAI kit on a 2001 F250 V10 .: Articles
 
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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ah, you cheated and looked at his other posts...and here we were off on a tanget due to some skillful misdirect by Stewart
 
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Originally Posted by Tylus
ah, you cheated and looked at his other posts...and here we were off on a tanget due to some skillful misdirect by Stewart
A very informative tangent at that, lol!
 
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
ah, you cheated and looked at his other posts...and here we were off on a tanget due to some skillful misdirect by Stewart
No, no, no, no! I simply asked (albeit with heaps of humor) for the OP to fill out his sig so we knew what kind of rig he has so we could properly answer his questions. I too saw his other threads (well after I had posted), but none of that changed my post, since it will still come up in future questions posted by the OP.

Now, if ANYONE were to take credit for a....how shall we say....specific path/tangent that was followed, that would be our esteemed colleague William!

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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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What tangent? It's not my fault Jeff posted in a thread about 6.0l intakes. Sheesh... LOL
 
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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So I think the question still stands. Is an after market intake a good idea for the v10?
 
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