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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Area351
With 11 to 1 compression ratio I say: no way on his claimed HP numbers.

Your BBF should spank him big time "if" you could ever get it to hook up (which I seriously doubt).

With that said, it takes a lot of work and $$$$ to reach 2 HP per cubic inch.

I've been building race engines for nearly 30 years an we consistently see 650 HP on 328 (destroked 350) Chevy engines running 13:1 with alcohol @ 7500 RPM used in Nascar Modifieds.

I get goose bumps every time we run one on the dyno with a sheet of plexiglass between you and the engine.
I know the feeling! I always think " did I troq all the rod bolts?"

And it's a know fact the GM boys always add 200HP to their engines to compensate for a small *****.

The only problem I see with your motor is the carb size. Bigger is not better by no means. The last motor I built before I left the shop was a BBC. It was somewhere around 750 cubic inches and made 720hp. We only had 750 cfm Barry Grant on it. The plugs were reading good during break in and during dyno time. So by that the CFM was right. As far as the 383, maybe 350-375HP depending on heads.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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Your main problem will be getting your truck to bite. When it does your next problem will be broken parts. Until you line them up nobody knows. The Chevrolet is geared low assuming stock gears. There are many online calculators to help with gear choice. Find 1 & work out the best gear for your situation. You will launch out of the hole given superior torque. This isn't that rough Chevrolet truck with the camper shell on it that does wheelies is it?
yeah i agree. i was thinking of using the m&h race master 10" DOT slicks, in the rear. and now the weak point is the rear end. i got 1330 series u-joint which will blow for sure. i need a 1350. going to spool the rear. that damn split shaft crap is limiting me too. solid driveshaft???
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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What gas is he running? Race gas? Is he running a power adder on it? What gas are you running? Have you ever been over to 460ford.com or 429-460ford.com? They will give you a good idea of what you will make. In my opinion; anything that runs solely on race gas is not street-able. Your compression seems awfully high for pump gas and iron heads; not gonna run too well on pump gas. Now if u are running race gas; you will be ok. BTW, a holly 950hp would be a much better carb on the street.
he's running 91 octane, he says he's driving it every day. no nitrous, i am a member over there at 460 ford. the admin. doesn't let me post yet so i gotta search. yeah, i screwed up and ordered the smaller dish pistons, so the compression got bumped up a little, and on hot iron heads i think i may have to run 100 or 110. i was going to get a 950cfm holley, but holley performance gave me a sweet deal on a factory refurb 1050. the engine is built for huge torque, it's going to be on the street a bit. so i want usable power at lower rpm's. but it would be nice to have good times at the track too.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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I know the feeling! I always think " did I troq all the rod bolts?"

And it's a know fact the GM boys always add 200HP to their engines to compensate for a small *****.

The only problem I see with your motor is the carb size. Bigger is not better by no means. The last motor I built before I left the shop was a BBC. It was somewhere around 750 cubic inches and made 720hp. We only had 750 cfm Barry Grant on it. The plugs were reading good during break in and during dyno time. So by that the CFM was right. As far as the 383, maybe 350-375HP depending on heads.
i just felt i could grow into the 1050. 950 or 1000 cfm probably would have been more desirable. but i only had an edelbrock 750 before...what are ya gonna do?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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I don't see that 383 putting out that kind of Hp my buddy built a blown 383 and was only in the 600hp range I don't see it happening with a na motor unless high compression race fuel or maybe alky or nos added from the sounds of your motor you should walk all over him any day but I'm thinking your main problem will be hooking up and putting that power to the ground unless you hook that power is worthless and he will eat you
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 10:05 PM
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Are your heads port matched to the intake?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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If he is running 91 octane on the street, he is nowhere near 11:1 compression.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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Just think how good you are going to feel when you smoke that supposed 650 horse 7000 rpm small block with your 450-500 horse big block.

And I don't know about the availability in your area, but if you are worried about your compression, maybe you could consider running e85. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than race gas, good for about 12-12.5 compression, runs cooler and is good for a little more torque. Some people have a bad opinion of it, but we have had good luck with it in some of our roundy-round cars.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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BTW, I would lower the truck and put some Cal-tracs on it.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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i just felt i could grow into the 1050. 950 or 1000 cfm probably would have been more desirable. but i only had an edelbrock 750 before...what are ya gonna do?
Edelbrock's are great for driving. I love them better then anything for just driving. But, add a good Holley, BG or Demon and it'll feel like you added 50HP. I dyno'ed the 302 in my Ranger at 394HP with an Edelbrock 750. I later added a 650 Race Demon and it was like I added 100HP. But whatever you decide it'll be good.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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Are your heads port matched to the intake?
Damn you Bobby! I keep thinking I am getting closer & closer to your engine & you throw something new in the mix. I would love to line them up side by side & do a video. I would expect your truck to take mine at this time but I think it would make a great video.
 
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