Borgeson steering shaft installation - need help
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Borgeson steering shaft installation - need help
Need some help with the Borgeson shaft. Got it out of the box and it's way too long. The instructions say to cut down the hollow shaft to size, but that doesn't sound right looking at what I have. Here's just the solid interior shaft:
There's barely a 1/2" between the end of the solid shaft and the steering wheel shaft near the firewall.
My question is have any of you needed to cut down the solid shaft? Is that normal?
Second is, how much can I safely take out of the solid shaft? I want to have enough there for proper function but also the maximum collapse distance in case of an impact.
I guess my third question is how much would I cut from both solid and hollow shaft?
There's barely a 1/2" between the end of the solid shaft and the steering wheel shaft near the firewall.
My question is have any of you needed to cut down the solid shaft? Is that normal?
Second is, how much can I safely take out of the solid shaft? I want to have enough there for proper function but also the maximum collapse distance in case of an impact.
I guess my third question is how much would I cut from both solid and hollow shaft?
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Here's another picture.. Looks to be about 9" from the ujoint at the steering box up to the upper fitting for the steering wheel. The solid rod goes past the upper u-joint so it definitely has to be cut down.
Some of y'all may have done this a time or two, it's an expensive part to cut to the wrong length for a first-timer. Thanks for your help FlareSIde & others.
Some of y'all may have done this a time or two, it's an expensive part to cut to the wrong length for a first-timer. Thanks for your help FlareSIde & others.
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Ok, I took a look at what I have, and here is what I found:
The shaft is approx 18" overall at the moment. I pulled the column out las week, so it may be a bit more collapsed than if it was connected. Of that the upper hollow shaft is only 6"-7".
Here is what I would suggest at this point. Install the universal on the column, and the lower solid shaft on the gearbox. Measure the distance from the lower sholder of the colum u-joint to the mid-point of the lower shaft to get the length of your hollow upper shaft.
The shaft is approx 18" overall at the moment. I pulled the column out las week, so it may be a bit more collapsed than if it was connected. Of that the upper hollow shaft is only 6"-7".
Here is what I would suggest at this point. Install the universal on the column, and the lower solid shaft on the gearbox. Measure the distance from the lower sholder of the colum u-joint to the mid-point of the lower shaft to get the length of your hollow upper shaft.
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Ok, I took a look at what I have, and here is what I found:
The shaft is approx 18" overall at the moment. I pulled the column out las week, so it may be a bit more collapsed than if it was connected. Of that the upper hollow shaft is only 6"-7".
Here is what I would suggest at this point. Install the universal on the column, and the lower solid shaft on the gearbox. Measure the distance from the lower sholder of the colum u-joint to the mid-point of the lower shaft to get the length of your hollow upper shaft.
The shaft is approx 18" overall at the moment. I pulled the column out las week, so it may be a bit more collapsed than if it was connected. Of that the upper hollow shaft is only 6"-7".
Here is what I would suggest at this point. Install the universal on the column, and the lower solid shaft on the gearbox. Measure the distance from the lower sholder of the colum u-joint to the mid-point of the lower shaft to get the length of your hollow upper shaft.
Right now I don't see how I can use my Borgeson with the current column. I asked them about cutting down the solid half, and they said do not do it.
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Aren't the E-series columns longer than the F-series columns? Maybe a van column was installed in your truck. There are how-to instructions available on shortening a column.
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Yes they are on the Borgeson website as a PDF. I've read through those instructions multiple times, and spoke with Borgeson on the phone.
Their instructions explain how to shorten the hollow outer tube. Borgeson said that the solid inner rod should not be cut.
I wish I could get someone to snap some pics of their 80-86 F series truck column where it enters the engine area (like my pic a few posts up). I've scoured Google images and come up with zip.
Their instructions explain how to shorten the hollow outer tube. Borgeson said that the solid inner rod should not be cut.
I wish I could get someone to snap some pics of their 80-86 F series truck column where it enters the engine area (like my pic a few posts up). I've scoured Google images and come up with zip.
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Yes they are on the Borgeson website as a PDF. I've read through those instructions multiple times, and spoke with Borgeson on the phone.
Their instructions explain how to shorten the hollow outer tube. Borgeson said that the solid inner rod should not be cut.
I wish I could get someone to snap some pics of their 80-86 F series truck column where it enters the engine area (like my pic a few posts up). I've scoured Google images and come up with zip.
Their instructions explain how to shorten the hollow outer tube. Borgeson said that the solid inner rod should not be cut.
I wish I could get someone to snap some pics of their 80-86 F series truck column where it enters the engine area (like my pic a few posts up). I've scoured Google images and come up with zip.
If its a tilt column, I found them difficult to disassemble.
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Since shift dial is cable controlled and located within instrument cluster on 1980's F100/350's, Bronco's and Passenger Cars, AOD column has to be from a 1981/91 E100/150.
AOD first offered in 1981 E/F100/150's, but was not available in E250/350's.
Look at other thread, I posted parts catalog pics of 1980/81 & 1982/89 Econoline tilt columns (post 11), 1980/89 F100/350 non tilt column (post 15).
Look at 3B676 lower steering shaft and coupler assy in F100/350 pic (also shown in post 4 in this thread). Now look for a 3B676 in Econoline pics. Lotsa luck, cuz there ain't no such thing.
IMO, Econoline tilt column frankensteined with parts from lawd only know what, in order to install it in OP's 1984 F350.
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Even still it looks like the column is about 3" long from the edge of the rubber boot, and the shaft sticks out another couple inches for the U joint to attach to. If it weren't for the automatic linkage that looks like it would give me the extra clearance.
Can you look again in the AM and give me a close estimate of the length between the two shaft ends (steering box and column)? Realize the u-joint and rag joint will obscure your view a bit, but take your best estimate..
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OK, it'll be tomorrow evening but I should be able to do it before it gets dark out....
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Got the new steering column installed (it was about 3" shorter). Here's the distance between the inner Borg shaft and the end of the Borg u-joint (which needs to be slid down about 1/2"). It's looking like there is about 2" of space to collapse.
Is that what you guys were seeing in your Borgeson installs?
Is that what you guys were seeing in your Borgeson installs?