Stuck or Seized Engine
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Engine has been sitting for a year.
It ran fine before storage, but now it is stuck from rust.
Who would have thought this could happen over a year!
The thing was parked under a carport too!
I have ATF in all the cylinders, soaking, and have big breaker bar on the crank bolt and go shake it every day.
What else can one do to break the cylinders free?
I guess take the heads off and beat it
I hate RUST!!!
It ran fine before storage, but now it is stuck from rust.
Who would have thought this could happen over a year!
The thing was parked under a carport too!
I have ATF in all the cylinders, soaking, and have big breaker bar on the crank bolt and go shake it every day.
What else can one do to break the cylinders free?
I guess take the heads off and beat it
I hate RUST!!!
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Just some other ideas
- take the belts off all your accessories in case it's one of them that's frozen
- I've seen lost bolts, nuts, broken starter pieces, etc. wedge between the bell housing and ring gear
- take the belts off all your accessories in case it's one of them that's frozen
- I've seen lost bolts, nuts, broken starter pieces, etc. wedge between the bell housing and ring gear
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If it is a standard tranny make sure the clutch isnt stuck to the pressure plate.
Also, as already said, remove the plugs and pour in some penetrant or diesel fuel and let it soak and remove all the accessory belts. Both are good points
Also, as already said, remove the plugs and pour in some penetrant or diesel fuel and let it soak and remove all the accessory belts. Both are good points
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You might also pull the starter and use a large screwdriver or bar and pry on the ring gear - up and down a little at a time. You can get a good bit of leverage working for you there.
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That's a new one to me, wow. Was all the oil drained from it or no plugs in it the whole time or something? Man thats a shame that such a beautiful machine has arthritis like that.
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Is it a standard or auto tranny?
Do you have access to a 3/4" breaker bar?
Can you put a cheater bar on your breaker bar? I used a 8' long bar on an engine once. Do you have a 250# friend?
If the piston that is stuck is near the top or bottom of it's stroke it is hard to get any leverage on it.
The water vapor in the air is what got into the engine and caused the rust.
There are ways to "mothball" an engine but that is too late now.
Do you have access to a 3/4" breaker bar?
Can you put a cheater bar on your breaker bar? I used a 8' long bar on an engine once. Do you have a 250# friend?
If the piston that is stuck is near the top or bottom of it's stroke it is hard to get any leverage on it.
The water vapor in the air is what got into the engine and caused the rust.
There are ways to "mothball" an engine but that is too late now.
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Bummer, I hate to hear of such a tragic moment in a FORD owners life.
What is you location? Are you near an Ocean? The reason why I ask is that, I picked up a 79 Ford w/302 and that same thing was occuring. I found that it wasn't rust though. It was salt deposits. I live in Oregon, right near the Pacific Ocean. I agree with everything else that has been sugested. I also had a seized/Locked tranny, so all I did was chain it to a tree, and then pulled on it with another truck, and it broke everything free. Just some thoughts.
What is you location? Are you near an Ocean? The reason why I ask is that, I picked up a 79 Ford w/302 and that same thing was occuring. I found that it wasn't rust though. It was salt deposits. I live in Oregon, right near the Pacific Ocean. I agree with everything else that has been sugested. I also had a seized/Locked tranny, so all I did was chain it to a tree, and then pulled on it with another truck, and it broke everything free. Just some thoughts.
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DO NOT PUT AN 8' BREAKER BAR ON THAT CRANK BOLT!!!with the plugs removed and lubricant in the cylinders,all belts removed,and a buddy you can trust to listen to what you say,put a NORMAL breaker bar on crank bolt and put tension on it,at the same time have your buddy hit the key briefly.now knowledge of engine rotation is important,351/400m motor turn counterclockwise,302 turns clockwise.it's a good idea to put cardboard or something infront of the spark plug holes,when she goes,you and everything else within 15' will get drenched.Now if the buddy idea makes you nervouse,you can jump out the starter soloniod yourself.anyway keep repeating the key hit with the breaker bar helping until she frees up.once she frees up,you'll get a ton of crap pumping out of one,maybe two cylinders{rust}when it stops,through the plugs in,hook up the radiatorand let her run.when it's hot,shut her down and let her cool.fire it up again,let it get hot,shut it down.change the plugs,flush cooling system,refil and you should be set.
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The water vapor in the air is what got into the engine and caused the rust.
There are ways to "mothball" an engine but that is too late now.
There are ways to "mothball" an engine but that is too late now.
As far as mothballing, I do it to my PWC every winter, so I know how, just didnt know I needed to.
It is an Auto.
And we live about 30 miles from the Gulf.
As far as an update, I am still tracing the problem.
Going into the shop next week. It may be worse than we thought.
Will keep you posted.
(quick rant, we have 5 vehicles, most of them except for this stuck one are newer (it is a 77, the others are 2002, 1999, 1991, 1987) Anyway, 4 of them have problems right now, and the one that does run (the 87), has a slipping torque converter...
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The craziest thing is it sat for 5 YEARS and started right up after a fluid change.
Oh well, I am about one more bad thing happening from selling them all and buying something new...
Oh well, I am about one more bad thing happening from selling them all and buying something new...
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Want some crazy thread resurection?
It ended up being a piece of slag somehow got stuck between the torque convertor and the flywheel.
When it was bolted together, it caused the bind.
You should have seen the ATF fly out of the cylinders once it was fixed (note to self, cover them with somethng heavy, it will BLOW a plastic sheet off!)
It ended up being a piece of slag somehow got stuck between the torque convertor and the flywheel.
When it was bolted together, it caused the bind.
You should have seen the ATF fly out of the cylinders once it was fixed (note to self, cover them with somethng heavy, it will BLOW a plastic sheet off!)