Alternator question?
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Alternator question?
Ok so on the 445 build im going with a serpentine belt system. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mch-19030
The stock Alt obviously will not be good enough with extra lights, stereo, etc. So while im building this engine Im going to get a new alt instead of taking the one off the old engine. What ALT will fit the bracket the March Performance kit comes with since looking I see there are different types of mounting options?
Also, if I go with this 3g alt upgrade, what parts will I need since these dent have a little box the alt usualy plugs into? Im very confused on the whole 3g thing.....
I assume I need this
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and one of these wire harnesses?
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The stock Alt obviously will not be good enough with extra lights, stereo, etc. So while im building this engine Im going to get a new alt instead of taking the one off the old engine. What ALT will fit the bracket the March Performance kit comes with since looking I see there are different types of mounting options?
Also, if I go with this 3g alt upgrade, what parts will I need since these dent have a little box the alt usualy plugs into? Im very confused on the whole 3g thing.....
I assume I need this
-
and one of these wire harnesses?
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Thanks
Tuned
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Ok so on the 445 build im going with a serpentine belt system. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mch-19030
The stock Alt obviously will not be good enough with extra lights, stereo, etc. So while im building this engine Im going to get a new alt instead of taking the one off the old engine. What ALT will fit the bracket the March Performance kit comes with since looking I see there are different types of mounting options?
Also, if I go with this 3g alt upgrade, what parts will I need since these dent have a little box the alt usualy plugs into? Im very confused on the whole 3g thing.....
I assume I need this
-
and one of these wire harnesses?
Search Results - We Carry Most Ford and GM Applications
Thanks
The stock Alt obviously will not be good enough with extra lights, stereo, etc. So while im building this engine Im going to get a new alt instead of taking the one off the old engine. What ALT will fit the bracket the March Performance kit comes with since looking I see there are different types of mounting options?
Also, if I go with this 3g alt upgrade, what parts will I need since these dent have a little box the alt usualy plugs into? Im very confused on the whole 3g thing.....
I assume I need this
-
and one of these wire harnesses?
Search Results - We Carry Most Ford and GM Applications
Thanks
Fleet Owner
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Your OE alternator and the 3G alternator share the same three-inch casting where the looong mounting bolt is inserted. With a 3g swap, you need not remove the pulley because it is already grooved for the serpentine system.
Note that you'll have to change over to a Saginaw PS pump and, I think, different PS hoses!!! Add that to your budget!!!!!! That's alot of coin just for some pretty billet. Nonetheless, the choice is yours but it seems to me $1,000 would be better spent on building a beast of a motor than eye candy. A clean, well-detailed engine speaks more to me than shiny bracketry.
The voltage regulator (box) is typically deleted with the swap because the 3g is internally regulated. PA Performance's modified regulator box (your link, $35) allows retention of the ammeter gauge. That's all it does.
Parts needed for the 3g swap include a 175A mega fuse, mega fuse holder, 8 AWG cable, cable lugs, heat shrink, solder, zip ties, and of course, the alternator. Get your electrical supplies (like the mega fuse holder) from Delcity.net.
Do your homework by reading through the 3g swap thread. It's easy... waaay easy... so easy there is no reason to pay someone to do it for you.
Note that you'll have to change over to a Saginaw PS pump and, I think, different PS hoses!!! Add that to your budget!!!!!! That's alot of coin just for some pretty billet. Nonetheless, the choice is yours but it seems to me $1,000 would be better spent on building a beast of a motor than eye candy. A clean, well-detailed engine speaks more to me than shiny bracketry.
The voltage regulator (box) is typically deleted with the swap because the 3g is internally regulated. PA Performance's modified regulator box (your link, $35) allows retention of the ammeter gauge. That's all it does.
Parts needed for the 3g swap include a 175A mega fuse, mega fuse holder, 8 AWG cable, cable lugs, heat shrink, solder, zip ties, and of course, the alternator. Get your electrical supplies (like the mega fuse holder) from Delcity.net.
Do your homework by reading through the 3g swap thread. It's easy... waaay easy... so easy there is no reason to pay someone to do it for you.
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Your OE alternator and the 3G alternator share the same three-inch casting where the looong mounting bolt is inserted. With a 3g swap, you need not remove the pulley because it is already grooved for the serpentine system.
Note that you'll have to change over to a Saginaw PS pump and, I think, different PS hoses!!! Add that to your budget!!!!!! That's alot of coin just for some pretty billet. Nonetheless, the choice is yours but it seems to me $1,000 would be better spent on building a beast of a motor than eye candy. A clean, well-detailed engine speaks more to me than shiny bracketry.
The voltage regulator (box) is typically deleted with the swap because the 3g is internally regulated. PA Performance's modified regulator box (your link, $35) allows retention of the ammeter gauge. That's all it does.
Parts needed for the 3g swap include a 175A mega fuse, mega fuse holder, 8 AWG cable, cable lugs, heat shrink, solder, zip ties, and of course, the alternator. Get your electrical supplies (like the mega fuse holder) from Delcity.net.
Do your homework by reading through the 3g swap thread. It's easy... waaay easy... so easy there is no reason to pay someone to do it for you.
Note that you'll have to change over to a Saginaw PS pump and, I think, different PS hoses!!! Add that to your budget!!!!!! That's alot of coin just for some pretty billet. Nonetheless, the choice is yours but it seems to me $1,000 would be better spent on building a beast of a motor than eye candy. A clean, well-detailed engine speaks more to me than shiny bracketry.
The voltage regulator (box) is typically deleted with the swap because the 3g is internally regulated. PA Performance's modified regulator box (your link, $35) allows retention of the ammeter gauge. That's all it does.
Parts needed for the 3g swap include a 175A mega fuse, mega fuse holder, 8 AWG cable, cable lugs, heat shrink, solder, zip ties, and of course, the alternator. Get your electrical supplies (like the mega fuse holder) from Delcity.net.
Do your homework by reading through the 3g swap thread. It's easy... waaay easy... so easy there is no reason to pay someone to do it for you.
And I will be doing most of this myself with the mechanic there to supervise.
Fleet Owner
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Thanks HIO! And I already have the GM style Saginaw on my engine so that's not a big deal. And ive debated back and forth between V belt or serpentine and I wouldn't mind keeping the V belt but me and the guy helping me do this 445 lean towards the more modern serpentine. He hates V belt I don't know why so he is kind of pushing me towards the serpentine..... I think the price is outrageous for it so he is going to see through his connections if he can buy each pulley and bracket separate from different suppliers for half the price. In the end I think im going to stick with V belt but the way its looking if im going to do a complete roller engine and have it all done up right, I will be swapping to the serpentine. Time will tell but you are right on spending that money on something like gas haha.
And I will be doing most of this myself with the mechanic there to supervise.
And I will be doing most of this myself with the mechanic there to supervise.
If interested in a nice V-belt system, consider one from CVF Racing. It's already set up for a Saginaw pump: Ford 390 Pulley Systems
... at half the cost!
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Cool.
If interested in a nice V-belt system, consider one from CVF Racing. It's already set up for a Saginaw pump: Ford 390 Pulley Systems
... at half the cost!
If interested in a nice V-belt system, consider one from CVF Racing. It's already set up for a Saginaw pump: Ford 390 Pulley Systems
... at half the cost!
And a nice price tag haha. Good to know. I saved the page and sent it off to my buddy as well.
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