Ford actually made the Cummins????
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
I believe that would have to be a new design. Right now, if I needed a new truck it would be a PSD, power, speed, comfort, and not have to worry about getting ran over by Cat and Detroit powered transfer trucks.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
As for the john deere engine I read in a magazine once where a guy put a 466 JD engine in a pick-up. Not sure how he did it though, it's probably been 6 years since I read that. I'd like a Cat diesel in a pick-up, then I'd probably look at a diesel more seriously 
As to the cummins rumor, I did hear from a friend who is a diesel mechanic that Ford owned the patents for the 5.9 cummins. Not saying it's true but that's the story I've heard. I know I've heard it for several years that Ford was connected with the dodge cummins some way or another.
As to the cummins rumor, I did hear from a friend who is a diesel mechanic that Ford owned the patents for the 5.9 cummins. Not saying it's true but that's the story I've heard. I know I've heard it for several years that Ford was connected with the dodge cummins some way or another.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
Give me the John Deere 6030 motor in a pickup, and I would be in heaven. That's one of the baddest factory turbo charged motors ever to come in a farm tractor. But it would probably have to go in the bed of the truck.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
Early in this thread someone mentioned Ford selling the cummins engine and developing the Powerstroke engine instead. FYI, the Powerstroke is built by International trucks and sold to Ford for their use, look under the hood of many International medium duty trucks and you will see an International T444E, the same engine Ford calls a Powerstroke. Developed, built and sold by International Trucks.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
Yep,just like the Duramax is really a Isuzu.The only difference is GM owns them.
Yeah,I know they call it a "joint venture." Isuzu knows a WHOLE lot more about Diesels than GM.It's still a fine engine,though.
Since Ford has bought the Volvo Car Division,maybe Ford will someday aquire Volvo's Truck line and use them in the F-350.
Yeah,I know they call it a "joint venture." Isuzu knows a WHOLE lot more about Diesels than GM.It's still a fine engine,though.
Since Ford has bought the Volvo Car Division,maybe Ford will someday aquire Volvo's Truck line and use them in the F-350.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
That would be great. Volvos are some of the toughest things around-never heard anyone curse a volvo- I was *told* that international built the bottom end, and FoMoCo put on the heads, intake, etc, but i assume now that that is not true.
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Originally posted by muchtomydelight
That would be great. Volvos are some of the toughest things around-never heard anyone curse a volvo- I was *told* that international built the bottom end, and FoMoCo put on the heads, intake, etc, but i assume now that that is not true.
That would be great. Volvos are some of the toughest things around-never heard anyone curse a volvo- I was *told* that international built the bottom end, and FoMoCo put on the heads, intake, etc, but i assume now that that is not true.
International designed, manufactures the major components, and assembles all the PSD. Several minor components are manufactured by other companies and sold to international, which sells completed engines to Ford. Standard business practice.
The 5.9 existed long before it was ever put into a dodge truck. Someone at cummins decided they could sell another 40K+ engines, if they convinced dodge to put it into thier trucks.
Between '03 and '04 you are gaurenteed to see all new diesel engines. As '04 is the year of new emissions standards that are well over twice as strict as the '98 standards that they are replacing. So Cummins, Catepillar, International, Mercedes Benz, Hino, Mitsubishi, everyone who sells diesels engines in the US is going to have an all new line up for the '04 model year. Many engines may be sold as simple upgrades but in truth they are all brand new engines. (Well Cat was supposed to for '03 but they couldnt get thier technology to work right, so now they get to pay a 100% fine on every engine they sell
.If anyone cares to dispute any of this with me feel free.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
Ford did not make the Cummins, but ford is the major share holder of the company that was an old british company. Since then they have been building motors in the UK, Brazil, India and in the U.S. Dodge is trying to get a diesel motor from mercedes so the can get out of Cummins, but the mercedes engines are to heavy for the torque and horsepower required for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks there ratio to wieght is to much. For years Fords and Bedfords have had Cummins Diesels and Cat diesels in the bigger trucks.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
I don't think Dodge is trying to get out of the Cummins contract. they just signed one until 07 a few years ago. They had a chance to back out but why would they do that?
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I would like to see Volvo diesels in Ford trucks. We have volvo diesels in our big trucks and they kick the poo out of the Cummins as far as reliability, mileage, and power go.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
Originally posted by dman01
What new rumor will pop up next?
I was reading a Manual on a Cat engine and it said something about recommending that you put a set of main bearings in every 100k miles Is that true because this manual was off a 3208 that me friend wants to put in a 92 f250 with a junk 7.3 nnon turbo that he blew the head gasket I think on last summer.
What new rumor will pop up next? I was reading a Manual on a Cat engine and it said something about recommending that you put a set of main bearings in every 100k miles
Is that true because this manual was off a 3208 that me friend wants to put in a 92 f250 with a junk 7.3 nnon turbo that he blew the head gasket I think on last summer.
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Ford actually made the Cummins????
Originally posted by Chronos_Titan
I am going to address several things that i have heard in this thread.
International designed, manufactures the major components, and assembles all the PSD. Several minor components are manufactured by other companies and sold to international, which sells completed engines to Ford. Standard business practice.
The 5.9 existed long before it was ever put into a dodge truck. Someone at cummins decided they could sell another 40K+ engines, if they convinced dodge to put it into thier trucks.
Between '03 and '04 you are gaurenteed to see all new diesel engines. As '04 is the year of new emissions standards that are well over twice as strict as the '98 standards that they are replacing. So Cummins, Catepillar, International, Mercedes Benz, Hino, Mitsubishi, everyone who sells diesels engines in the US is going to have an all new line up for the '04 model year. Many engines may be sold as simple upgrades but in truth they are all brand new engines. (Well Cat was supposed to for '03 but they couldnt get thier technology to work right, so now they get to pay a 100% fine on every engine they sell .
If anyone cares to dispute any of this with me feel free.
I am going to address several things that i have heard in this thread.
International designed, manufactures the major components, and assembles all the PSD. Several minor components are manufactured by other companies and sold to international, which sells completed engines to Ford. Standard business practice.
The 5.9 existed long before it was ever put into a dodge truck. Someone at cummins decided they could sell another 40K+ engines, if they convinced dodge to put it into thier trucks.
Between '03 and '04 you are gaurenteed to see all new diesel engines. As '04 is the year of new emissions standards that are well over twice as strict as the '98 standards that they are replacing. So Cummins, Catepillar, International, Mercedes Benz, Hino, Mitsubishi, everyone who sells diesels engines in the US is going to have an all new line up for the '04 model year. Many engines may be sold as simple upgrades but in truth they are all brand new engines. (Well Cat was supposed to for '03 but they couldnt get thier technology to work right, so now they get to pay a 100% fine on every engine they sell
.If anyone cares to dispute any of this with me feel free.
Oh, By the way, Statistics on 3208 overhaul milages says that the average overhaul milage for a 3208 V8 desiel is 454K miles in OTR applications.
And yes, I work at Cat and proudly assembled and tested 550 HP 14.6L 3406 on-highway truck engines for 3 years at Caterpillar's Mossville IL engine plant. I am now a MainFrame Computer programmer for Cat.
Almost forgot, Cat has been selling 2004 EPA certified engines since Feb of this year