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Old May 31, 2013 | 12:15 AM
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Deteriorated Water Pump Blades?

I've had the pump for 3 years. I'm getting swinging readings that I've never seen. I've changed the gauge from after market electric to after market manual, and it continues.

I'm wondering if deteriorating blades on the water pump could be causing the strange readings. Is that possible after only 3 years?
 
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Old May 31, 2013 | 12:21 AM
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I doubt it, but I suppose it's possible.

I would check/change the thermostat first though.

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Old May 31, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty_Old_F250
I doubt it, but I suppose it's possible.

I would check/change the thermostat first though.

Sam

Sam, thanks for the reply. The Thermostat was the first thing I thought of. I changed it when I changed the gauge. The jumping reading persists, and that is why suspicion moved to the w/pump. kevin.
 
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Old May 31, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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Sounds like an air pocket in the cooling system...

The air pocket gets around the temp sensor and the gauge swings high, after the air pocket passes, the temp sensor is surrounded by coolant and the gauge swings low (back to normal).

Try "burping" the cooling system.
 
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Old May 31, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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Maybe that's something new...but the old systems I didn't think it mattered if you "burped them or not...as you can run at idle with the cap off...

They don't make things like they used to...thermostats go bad, gauges go bad pumps go bad...even after 3 yrs...I wouldn't suspect the cooling fins deteriorating after that short of a time.
 
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Old May 31, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by montana_highboy
Sounds like an air pocket in the cooling system...

The air pocket gets around the temp sensor and the gauge swings high, after the air pocket passes, the temp sensor is surrounded by coolant and the gauge swings low (back to normal).

Try "burping" the cooling system.
Thanks. That sounds like a logical explanation. Cheers to ya.
 
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Old May 31, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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Having no idea what motor, what year even .... you have .... and knowing there is a good chance all the below is old news to you ..... please look at it simply as an attempt to maybe help.

If by chance, you maybe have a 351M or 400 make sure you have the thermostat specifically for a 351M or 400, not at all same as for 351W or 289-302. The 351M and 400 use same block and it's bypass is cast in place and the correct thermostat has a "inverted hat" on the lower side that serves to fiurther restrict the bypass as the T-stat opens. The regular SBFord T-stats don't. Use of the wrong T-stat configuration will result in strange temperature readings and often, a slow climb into the "red zone" as much coolant is simply recirculated into the block without ever going through a radiator. The purpose of the restriction becoming greater is to force more coolant through the radiator as temps go up.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ng-issues.html
 
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Having no idea what motor, what year even .... you have .... and knowing there is a good chance all the below is old news to you ..... please look at it simply as an attempt to maybe help.

If by chance, you maybe have a 351M or 400 make sure you have the thermostat specifically for a 351M or 400, not at all same as for 351W or 289-302. The 351M and 400 use same block and it's bypass is cast in place and the correct thermostat has a "inverted hat" on the lower side that serves to fiurther restrict the bypass as the T-stat opens. The regular SBFord T-stats don't. Use of the wrong T-stat configuration will result in strange temperature readings and often, a slow climb into the "red zone" as much coolant is simply recirculated into the block without ever going through a radiator. The purpose of the restriction becoming greater is to force more coolant through the radiator as temps go up.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ng-issues.html
Thanks for your input and willingness to lend a helping hand. I have a 300 I6, but it was interesting to read about the other engines cooling systems. k
 
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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I've seen impeller blades gone from the shaft. But thats after someone runs straight water in system for years and the blades just rusted away.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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If the water pump impeller was loose or rusted I have seen both the truck would overheat in less than 3 miles
 
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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Didn't know what motor you had, just throwing ideas.

Straight water over years will eat steel blades up, never heard of it with coolant (which also serves as a corrosion inhibitor) though. Worth a look I guess.

 
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